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Im a new member, cant belive I found this place.
91 pony-converting to GT! 8)

I need to know if wiring harness is the only thing between a base(pony) fuse block and power window/locks/mirrors. :p Or do I have to replace relays, blocks and wires :( to upgrade the vehicle.

Anyone know of 1 good site for 91 mod parts?
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Well talk to Matt, he can hook you up with lots of parts. As far as other sites...ebay has helped me the most. Or if you know what you looking for in a Mazda crossover part number you can find parts through flyin miata or flyin protege and of course Corksport.

I dont know the differences, but I know the 1.9L and the 1.8L are drastically different....to be honest I dont even know what the Pony came with in 91...so my best recommendation is to send an email to Mike. He is the man when it comes to Pony questions.

here's the addy for his homepage:

http://members.tripod.com/sleeperscort/
 

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To tell you the truth I don't really know too much about wiring in all the options. I have tried to keep the weight down on my car, so I haven't added many options to it besides small stuff like trunk release and map lights. I will tel you what I do know though. Most of the plugs are still on the harness, so you can usually just get a section of the harness that goes to the part you want, for example the power mirrors. All the wiring up to the door jamb is already there, you just need to get the wiring for inside the doors, the dash switch, and the power mirrors themselves. For the rear defrost, the switch wiring is all already in the dash, But I don't know where it ends. Most likely right back in the trunk area someplace. Power windows I am not sure about. I know people have swapped them in, so I assume the power wiring goes right up to the door jams as well. Lastly, I am pretty sure power locks were never available so that may be an aftermarket item. Hope that helped you a bit.


ps thanks for pointing him towards my page Jason!
 

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The swap

I took my doors off and traced the 4 wires from the body to the door and they lead to the speaker and a "closed door switch" but I think if I go into the fuse block I might be able to find a place for a harness that has those features..or maybe not?
 

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The connections may exist on the chassis side of the door harness, so you might be able to get a new harness for the door side that has the correct wires coming out of it. I have found that the main wiring is almost always there, you just need to find it's end point and then get the remaining harness.
 

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i have power windows and i'm here to tell you that all ou have to do is plull the motors and harnesses from another car. I used a wagon as my donor vehicle. You will have to drill holes in ur doors to mount the motors, but other than that, soon as its hooked up. it works. All you do is remove the door harness you have and replace it. No other mods.
 

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Even the connector from inside the car has only 4 wires in it
I cannot douu it captain.. she cant take noo muure! :mrgreen:
 

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ok.....you want power stuff right? Go to junkyard..........PUll a harness. The harness connects to the car at the door hinge, unclip that whole thing, bring everything u want, locks, mirrors, windows.......all the power options you want and bring them home. Remove your stock harness by unclipping it at the door hinge.....replace it w/ the power options wire harness...install everything and it will work. Only exception is the power mirror connector that goes on dash, u'll have to figure out how to install that, mine came stock.
 

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Oh

:idea: So what your saying is that even though there is only 4 wires coming from the fuse block, thats enough to run all the power options. :?:
:idea: Because all they need is power because the controls are built in!
 

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Man, guy buy the stuff and put it in, it will work. I have a 92 gt and my windows work. My friend had a 91(he's the one that told me it was all possible) and it works. See, the 4 wires coming out of the fuse block are ONLY the wires that need to be fused. There are about 7 wires total that go to a 2 door escort. My harness was from a 4 door escort, but i modified my switches to accomdate for a 2 door. Like i said, just go grab the door harnesses, motors and plug them in. The motor will need a lil bit of tweaking because the 2 top bolts are set higher than that of a manual window so you will need to tap new holes for it. Other than that, its an easy installation.
 

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if you have a 91 pony

In the wire harness, in the car body from the fuse block, that connects to the door connector, is only four wires not the expected 7. :cry:

I guess they didnt standardize the connectors on the first year of the new model.

If anyone has a 91 pony Please check to see if the same is true of theirs.
 

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so you are telling me, at your door hinge....when you open the door and you see that rubber hose going into the interior of your car from the door, when you pop it off, theres a 4 pin connector there? Thats where u disconnect your door harness....i dont think you are looking in the right spot man. For the door harness, you dont need to go near the fuse block.
 

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Ok yes that is where you dissconnect the wires for the door and yes that is the right connector. But what im saying is that on the inside side of that conn. there are only 4 wires going to it and yes, the only way to get seven wires for power doors is to replace the wire from fuse block to that connector. I wrote another thread asking bout 91 pony... the first year and the cheapest of the new body style.
 

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those are probably the only wires from the harness that actually need fused. The rest prolly go to other places and you just dont notice. I'm sitting here w/ my repair manual and it does not make any notations about ponies only having the basic harness. but i could be wrong....Go to a "u pull it" junkyard and pull one harness, switch and window motor...install it. And if it doesnt work, then return it.
 
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