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Ok my cars front tires are as smooth as a baby´s behind. Not a good thing to have in the rain trust me. I hope to get new tires for my car in about two weeks. There is a few things I want to know. First off, what tire size would you recomend? (I have a 91 GT with stock rims.) If I wanted to go with lower profile tires how low should I go without it looking stupid? (tiny wheels on 15 inch rims just wouldn´t seem right to me) Another thing, are there any specific tires you would recomend? Keep in mind that I´m working with a tiny budget so the cheaper the better. That reminds me, with the exception of local shops and tirerack.com are there any REALLY cheap places to get tires on the web? Also, I DO want something that will make my car handle much better in both dry and wet conditions. I´m not worried about snow (if I can get through the winter on bald tires and can do it with any tire). One last thing, I may not be able to afford all 4 tires at once, so if I kept the sidewall height thats on the back tires now (60) and just went from 195´s to 185´s in the front would that mess up my cars handling or something? (the reason I want to do this is because I hate how wider tires look like they are always flat and bulgy, I want to have the original tire width; and yes I do plan on changing the rears tires maybe another 2 weeks after that) I really need all of these questions answered so your help would be appreciated. Thanx.
 

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First off, stay away from the 185/60s. Thay are hard to find, and usually pretty expensive. Also, you´ll behard pressed to find an H-rated tire in that size. Also, I´m pretty sure Goodyear is the ONLY company that currently makes or ever made a tire in that size. Your car would have had the Eagle GT+4 from factory, but they are long discontinued. GY currently offers the Eagle LS and RS-A, original on the Neaon and ZX2.
For handling, I run 205/50VR15 Pirelli P700-Z. I would recommend something in that size with an H or higher rating. Alternatively, the 195/60HR15 is a good option. Many more choices available and usually quite a bit cheaper. I use 195/60TR15 snows, but the 205/50Vs are much cooler for handling.

HTH!
 

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Just try to find either 185/60-15s. or 195/60-15s. Or you could go for 16" or 17" tires too.

Make sure they have a speed rating of T or higher. I currently have tires rated for R, or 108 mph.

Speed Ratings:
P - 93 MPH
Q - 99 MPH
R - 108 MPH
S - 112 MPH
T - 118 MPH
U - 124 MPH
H - 130 MPH
V - 149 MPH
W - 168 MPH
Y - 186 MPH
Z - 149+ MPH

www.tirerack.com has some good tires.

Eagle Goodyear RS-A 185/60-15 for $70 each

Goodyear Eagle LS 185/60-15 for $55 each

GoodyearEagle LS 185/60-15 for $62 each
 

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what do you guys think of Kumho Ecsta 711´s size 205/50HR15? There only 43 bucks on tirerack.com. I read the reviews and they were good for the most part, but your opinions matter more.
 

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when my current tires die off I´ll be gettin me a set of Kumho Ecsta´s, so I´m not sure at this point how good they are. I say go for em, they should have some sort of warrenty on em shouldn´t they? no worries.
 

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on my 15´s and on previous sets of stock GT rims I have usually run 195/50r15...they tend to look good without seeming too thin, also they clear the rear wells very nicely...I;m sure that others have used other sizes and such with the same success, I have recently been running some Yokohama tires, not he most cost effeective...however you may want to check into Kumho, Sumitomo and Fulda....I have heard good things about them and the prices are usually not too high....also I am running the Kumho Ecsta 711´s on my 99 Passat, they are very nice and grip well....good luck, hope you find a tire in your budget and that suits the look you want....btw if you check my Cardomain page you can see what my set looks like now...but do keep in mind that mine is substantially lower than stock now...lol
 

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i just put two new tires on the front of my GT.... Kelly and they have a rating of H. $180 for two from the local tire place. they seem to be pretty good.
 

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There´s no point to putting wider tires on the rears of a front wheel drive car.
But to answer your question I´ve heard both sides, that 205s up front can and then can´t fit. So it´s like a guessing game. I guess. :-]
 

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Im runnin falken ze-502 205-60´s,great tire .i would definetly recommend.they wear very nice (on a properly aligned car)and at 46 bucks a tire you cant go wrong.oh and there also a directional tire ,dont know if it helps any but the tread pattern is pretty cool.
 

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Where can I pick up these focker.... er, "falkins"?

My tires are okay, but there´s a small crack going all the way (radially) around the FL tire and I think I may blow it out and need a new tire soon, so I started saving up.

Something that hugs the road really well, that´s all I care about. Gas mileage- meh, snow and rain traction- meh... I just want to fly around corners :)

I actually regret not buying an RX-7 b/c it´s RWD... oh well I still love my escort.
 

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The Escort will be 10% more stable than an RX7 in snow/ice/rain. I´ve seen girls in V6 Mustangs slide off into center medians in light snow. but I´ve yet to see ANY front wheel drive car slide off the road in crappy conditions.
 

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30-03-2003 at 20:36, 95EsortSittinLo wrote:
whats the widest tires with no modifications that can be put on a scort. and can you put wider ones on the back then the front will it matter?
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Putting wider tires on the rear would only serve to increase understeer and your car would plow more during hard corners. You probably wouldn´t like how it drove afterwards.
 

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30-03-2003 at 21:31, James92Scort wrote:
The Escort will be 10% more stable than an RX7 in snow/ice/rain. I´ve seen girls in V6 Mustangs slide off into center medians in light snow. but I´ve yet to see ANY front wheel drive car slide off the road in crappy conditions.
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James- in light snow my GT is all over the place...man that thing has the traction of a RWD anyways. I was trucking along a mild right turn on a backroad at about 40mph or so (speed limit was 30mph- so shoot me) and then my back end flies out and there was no guard rail on the far end of the turn, and a dropoff into a drainage ditch, so I´m like- oh shit!! My heart instantly jumps like 50bpm, I´m outta my seat trying to control the skid, so I countersteer with the wheel all the way to the left stop. I manage to get it in control and I´m all the way over in the left lane, about 15 feet from off the road. Man what a rush. This was about 4 days after I bought the car. That kinda thing never ever happened in the 95LX wagon, although I just put a nice set of yohohama avid touring tires on it.

That same sortof thing happened another 3 or 4 times, although never nearly as bad. I was extremely suprised at how poorly the GT did in the snow. I actually got fairly good at judging what it would do, and I was messing around on campus and I started turning like 20 feet before the turn, and managed to slide at almost 90 degrees, drift-style. Definite kudos points :)

um... anyway, </rant>

And exactly what is understeer/oversteer? I´m not afraid to swallow my pride and learn the lingo.
 

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30-03-2003 at 22:30, siragan wrote:

James- in light snow my GT is all over the place...man that thing has the traction of a RWD anyways. I was trucking along a mild right turn on a backroad at about 40mph or so (speed limit was 30mph- so shoot me)

That same sortof thing happened another 3 or 4 times, although never nearly as bad. I was extremely suprised at how poorly the GT did in the snow.

um... anyway, </rant>

And exactly what is understeer/oversteer? I´m not afraid to swallow my pride and learn the lingo.
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Ok does anyone else see the contradiction in his own words? if you drive reasonably in bad weather, then your back end won´t spin around in front of you. Good tires help too... my tires are a year and 4 months old and are in good condition.

Oversteer: the tendency of an automobile to steer into a sharper turn than the driver intends sometimes with a thrusting of the rear to the outside.
Which means in a corner the rear tires will lose grip before the front, and the rear will swing out wide.

Understeer: the tendency of an automobile to turn less sharply than the driver intends.
Meaning the front tires don´t have the grip and slid out wider than the rear tires.

By the way sweet lookin headlights, got anymore pics of them?

Red 92 EGT 5sp 90,925 miles sittin in the driveway...The Red Cavalier Killer

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If the rears are sliding out in the snow...

1) You are going WAAAAY to fast
2) You pulled the e-brake
3) Your rear tires are lower tread than the fronts

The GT is a VERY capable snow machine. For proof, send me $10 and I´ll ship you a copy of my rallye style DVD that I made. I shot the footage over the President´s Day snow storm (2 ft here in PA) and edited over the next week or so. I had my camera mounted to my tripod, mounted to my passenger seat. It has it all, high speed straights, low speed corners, e-brake slides, killer soundtrack and more.
Ever here of the Pagoda? Duryea Hill Climb? I have footage of that area. NORMALLY it´s used over the summer for SCCA hill climbs, but with a properly equipped RallyeScort (4 snows) it becomes a very entertaining slide-fest. The video is about 40 minutes long.
 

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Hey 2 egts, i just noticed your in Towanda.Not too far from here(Wilkes -Barre)im actually right outside of W-B, but anyway i got my tires from A&A auto parts in Dallas so check with them .If you find somthing you like let me know i could get you a pretty good deal from them.
 

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Home-made rally videos, eh? *looks at video he just made a few hours ago w/ the subaru wagon around town* Too bad I decided to do this at night.. nothing but street-lamps spinning round and round and that subaru exhaust note :-]
 
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