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What did you do to your wagon today?

Discussion in 'Escort Wagons' started by NightWulf, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. pextor

    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    According to Crutchfield's website, some of the speakers have a 68 in the part # which would make me think 6x8s fit. Well, I made them fit.
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    Replaced both transmission mounts, and discovered the brand new strut I just installed is already leaking. Wonderful.

    Also, all 4 power window regulators need replaced. The back 2 don't move at all, the passenger side comes up crooked, and the driver side got stuck down twice, but somehow decided to come up eventually.

    Every time I fix something on this car I find something else that is broke.
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    My GF always complains that I go beyond the actual immediate repair. I tell her that I already have it apart. I might as well replace it since I'm in their already. I know that eventually it'll fail so I may as well replace with it apart!

    My windows are starting to roll up a little slower than they should. I need to pull the door panels off to paint them so I may as well check the rollers, grease the rails, rewire the motors and check the door switches with my multimeter to make sure the motors are getting full voltage.

    John
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm gonna take a jump pack to the JY and test the motors before I get them. I don't want to swap bad motors for bad.
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    Why not have the ones you have now rewound? They may test out at the yard but you're talking about 20 year old motors....

    John
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    How much would that cost, and aren't they riveted together?
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    I just drill out the rivets. Rewind is probably around $25 a motor. They also replace motor bearings.

    John
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    Interesting to hear about the motor rewind service. I don't have electric windows, but I do like to repair things that are supposedly "unrepairable".

    Do you mail them off to somewhere?
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    There are a few of those services in my area that I can bring them motors to fix. Usually takes around 2 - 3 days to complete.

    I used to own an industrial laundry. Most of the machinery ran on 15 and 25 hp dc motors. I had to source a service that could service them. Any down time meant a drop in production.

    John
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    Took a pic in the Home Depot parking lot:

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    It's a thing of beauty, CopCarGuy.

    Makes me wanna zoom in and crop out everything but the car.

    Love that gloss on your hood. And how you've got all the black trim in such good shape.

    I'd better quit before I need a towel here .
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    What I did today, was to find out a slow leaker tire on my 92LX wagon was 'non-fixable' (at least according to them), so I would need a new tire. But they did not have a single 13" wheel in stock. They could have said they could order one in, but I was already hiking out the door. To bad there arent any Les Schwab places near me.
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    Thanks, she still looks good from that far away... (50 - 100 footer lol)

    Up close she’s beginning to show her 215,000 miles. Having lived in MA and PA it’s whole life all these winters are taking a toll.

    Rust is creeping in everywhere...
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    I'm not a wagon guy at all. But that's nice.
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    I've never been able to get any tire place to plug my tires and have done them all myself. It seems like anything that isn't dead smack in the center (which never happens) is "too close to the sidewall". Bah, whatever. I plugg'em and I wear'em past the bar. The long fiber plugs are very, very, very good. I quit bothering to ask'em anymore because I already know what the answer will be. "Buy this new tire from us." Well, that's not what they actually say, but I know what they actually mean by "it's too close to the sidewall". It's a liability thing really; which I understand and agree with. But I'd much prefer the honest answer of "we don't plug tires".
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    In my almost 10 years in the automotive industry I've plunged more tires than I've turned away so you are somehow managing to get non-reparable punctures every time or all the shops you go to are lying and just trying to sell new tires. Also, I would be VERY careful using rope plugs, they haven't been considered a permanent repair by tire manufacturers for over 10 years and aside from an emergency it's downright dangerous to repair a tire without dismounting it from the rim and inspecting it. Internal damage can occur from unknowingly running a tire low and even punctures can cause damage that you can't see.
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    The only reservation about putting a patch over the hole in the tire they said was non-fixable, would be due to how many of the cords in the tread or carcass got worn or ripped.
    I may still fix it, using the kind of patch that has a tapered strip down from the center of the inside. Before I fix it, I need to get some new tire-rubber-cement. Mine is over ten years old.

    I totally agree with only using the rope plugs for emergencies/ short-term use.
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    Usually it has more to do with the size of the puncture than with how damaged the cords are. You are actually supposed to bore out the hole with a carbide bit, which will cut the cords in the area, before you put the plug/patch in the hole. The rule is that you shouldn't repair a hole over 1/4" on a passenger car tire though the plug/patch manufacturer we used (REMA) said 3/8" was OK and the few I did in that size held just fine. TECH tire repair has all the repair training manuals for free on their website if anyone is interested.
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    No disrespect intended, but: Yeah, yeah whatever; nothing I haven't already read. They've all worked perfectly. Yes I'm prepared to read "you've been lucky" and "you're going to kill someone" and "don't drive on MY roads with that sh*" blah, blah, blah.

    As general rule they say 2" from the sidewall. By their personal definitions, the sidewall doesn't end until you're underneath the rim. Considering your tire is only 6.9" wide, and you subtract 2" from each side, that only leaves you with 2.9" of possible area with which they might be able say, "we'll patch it". So that explains why I was wasting my time trying to find someone who would patch, versus sell. But again, their personal definitions seem to indicate that the sidewall doesn't end until you're already beneath the rim. So it wouldn't seem to matter that you're using a P185 (7.3") instead of a P175 (6.9").

    They just say that for liability reasons, which I agree and understand. From improper installation (many don't read instructions, don't ream the hole, and assume they don't need any rubber bonding agent) to use on a heavy vehicle that may carry loads, there are a myriad of circumstances where it either doesn't make cents (think, lawyers,) and/or doesn't make sense. But a compact class 88hp sedan on cool roads for the overwhelming majority of the year on quality modern tires, ain't the most stressful situation for a well made plug. When I'm done, there is a LOT of material balled up and hardened, on the other side of that hole. It's not going to blow out. At most, it'll slow leak. (which I've not had in issue with)

    EDIT: I should add, I'm not advocating actually patching sidewalls. That's just plain sdubid. Just that their definition of where the sidewall ends and how far they have to be from it, basically precludes the possibility of patching. They just want to sell me a tire. Fine, I'll do it myself...
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    Very sorry to hear about the rust. Whether we admit it, I believe all of us develop a certain attachment to our cars, no matter what t brand or model. And it's painful to accept that despite our best efforts, rust often takes them from us. I grew up in the gulf coast of South TX, and lost my first two to rust. Now, fortunately, I'm in central TX, where rust isn't such a problem, just the sun destroying paint and plastics.

    If money were no object, I know there's places around the country that can perform total ground-up repair and restoration, limited only by your budget. Sadly, our Escorts usually aren't deemed worthy.

    So keep on rolling, and I wanna see you two make it to a quarter million!
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