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What did you do to your 3rd gen today??

Discussion in '3rd Gen 1997-2002 2.0L SOHC' started by ndlm8888, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. Tnashua

    Tnashua Gearhead / hot rodder with a soft spot for Scorts

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    Put the "winter" tires on the other day... only after I had a front tire blowout on me the night before. :( Guess I'll be ordering some new tires for the Summer rims before next Spring.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Deej-one: With dents like that, I wonder if you could stuff an inner tube from a small wheel barrow or riding mower tire into the space - and begin to inflate the inner tube.
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    Installed a set of Trico Ice winter blades front & rear. Then a quick oil & filter change.


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    copcarguy FEOA Member

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    What hit you?
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    2019 Toyota Highlander. Tried to make a left turn guy hit me and spun.

    Need to get the rear struts replaced. Not too concerned about the huge dent. I'll drive this car into the ground.
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    Interesting. I'll give that a try.
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    2019 eh? Did he stop? People don't like to stop 'round here. They'll hitcha and keep right on going... except faster. Temporary tags still on?

    Bouncy bouncy in the rear eh? Well, don't be surprised if the springs are broken in addition to having worn out struts.

    Let's hope the car goes into the ground before you do LoL...
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    Tnashua Gearhead / hot rodder with a soft spot for Scorts

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    Escort started running rough last night.
    I suspected the worst based on the noises it was making... Had to make it home- so I kept driving it.
    Trying to sort things out tonight & determined that the number 3 & 4 injectors aren't firing!
    Any ideas?! My brain is shot- been a really long week...
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    Hopefully the 3rd-Gens don't suffer from this...
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    Just remove and inspect the #4 spark plug. If it's damaged, you have my condolences.
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    We hope'n for the best Tnash.
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    JY? Are they completely dead? injector cleaner kit? They're a little pricey but they'll do the job if the injectors are clogged. If they're electronics are bad then replacement is about it.

    John
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    Tnashua Gearhead / hot rodder with a soft spot for Scorts

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    Spark plugs were all fine the other day...
    All plugs seemed to be firing, was trying to diagnose in the dark after a long day, but determined that pulling the electrical plugs on the 3rd & 4th cylinder injectors makes no difference in the way the engine runs. Searching online showed nothing of use so I swapped those two injectors with some others I have laying around- NO change.
    Am I correct in assuming that the injectors fire via ECU controlled grounding?
    I have not yet gotten a good look at a wiring schematic for a 97...
    I hope to tinker again tomorrow if work doesn't keep me out too long. I really need to get a vehicle together (highway worthy) before the end of the week. I should have a couple ECU's that might work- If I can locate them. Anyone know if there is anything specific to a wagon ecu? I would suspect not & I have a couple 5-spd computers somewhere...
    I wouldn't think that the harness itself would develop an issue that would affect the number 3 & 4 cylinders- would any of you?
    I should have a compression tester out in that garage- Will employ it if necessary- just seems like I have an electrical issue right now.
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    Make sure the connectors on the passenger side strut tower are fully seated. One of them is for the injectors.
    The only thing I can imagine, is that the wiring to the injectors comes from the passenger side of the fuel rail, so the wires to #3 & #4 are a bit longer.

    My impression is that all injectors get 12 volts to them at all time, the other lead being grounded by the ECU at the proper time.
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    Even if we heard the sound you're referring to, we'd be guessing. But at least it would be an educated guess. Without hearing the sound you're referring to, or even getting a description, we can't really offer anything useful.
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    My number 3 wire slips off from time-to-time.
    Just saying.
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    If it does it once, it'll do it again... it's a bad set. Replace them.
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    Tnashua Gearhead / hot rodder with a soft spot for Scorts

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    Whelp!
    I should have trusted my ears & my years working on cars-
    It is most certainly a mechanical failure- Not an injector issue.
    Too bad I went surfing the web for answers instead of tearing into things.
    I had convinced myself (after reading a few things on hear & elsewhere) that the alternator that I had recently swapped onto the car from the Purple wagon (which also had started running really rough before I parked it) had screwed up the ECU or some other part of the fuel injection system. So- I tore into the car after work today. Replaced the alternator, charged the battery, cleaned all four of the injectors that I had on the car originally, pulled and inspected all the plugs, tightened the gaps on all the plugs (they were reading .058-.065) to .054... It was during the plug re-installation that I realized that I had dug out my compression tester, but that I hadn't utilized it yet. Pulled the plugs back out- starting with cylinder 1- 180psi :) Not bad, cylinder 2- 160, cylinder 3 ---, cylinder 4 --- :(
    No wonder pulling the injector plug on those cylinders didn't make any difference!!!
    So now I need to find the time (and preferably a garage to stick the car in for a week or so) to tear the engine out/down to sort out exactly what happened.
    I really would have thought that if the head had lost a couple valve seats- that I'd have torn up spark plugs. So I am lost...
    I'll be sure to post updates here as I sort stuff out.
    Ty
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    I'm so sorry to hear this Tnash...

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