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What did you do to your 2nd gen today??

Discussion in '2nd Gen 1991-1996 1.9L SOHC' started by chestypuller, Jul 6, 2014.

  1. Divine chaos

    Divine chaos FEOA Member

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    well alignment was fun. took 15 minutes. From the time he got into my car till i got the keys back. $97 bucks. least i know everything passed. Then in an attempt to get better mileage. i average 25mpg. I replaced the coil pack and wires with high voltage ones and e3 plugs. Then i replaced the factory o2 sensor. (its a 91 with 130k) Still no change. Think maybe a pully is dragging? i do have a strange sound at the pully side till its warm.
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    My 1992 Escort has four hole injectors stock.

    $100 for three hours of miserable work getting out a rusted suspension bolt.
    $ 97 for a quarter hour of alignment work.

    Hmmm, I think I know which one is more lucrative.
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    you probably have a different motor than stock. or they have been changed. they didnt have 4 hole injectors till 94ish i think. There is a thread here somewhere on it.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Im one of the folks who doesnt care how many holes the injectors in my cars have. They are all stock, all seem to work fine, and get about the same mpg. I own a 91LX hatch, a 92LX wagon, a 93lx hatch , two 94lx wagons's and my daughters is a 95LX sedan.
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    i wasnt that keen on changing them. but i read that the 4 hole ones will improve mileage because they atomize the gas better. Surprise surprise, no change. doesnt seem like my breaks are dragging. and replacing my bad water pump did not improve mileage any. I have a 91, no egr. no chk engine light. trans doesnt slip that i can tell. It does have a new filter and synthetic oil in trans. I gave tried different viscosities of oil, with no precieved affect. I did get 38 mpg a few times, even 42 once. so idk
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    "you probably have a different motor than stock. or they have been changed."

    I am the third owner of the car, and am familiar with its history and am pretty certain it has the original injectors. I also removed the injectors from a 1991 wagon at the junkyard and they both had four hole injectors. All of these injectors have Ford logos and numbers on them.

    There's much to be said for actually checking the injectors, rather than trusting dubious information repeated on the internet.
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    maybe the wagons are different than sedans. all i know is my car. it had factory ford single hole injectors. and the "dubious information" was from this sight bud. i am also the 3rd owner of my car. i checked multiple early sedans (91-94) all of which had single hole. i eventually found the 4 hole in a 95 sedan. anyway.... this is not the place for petty childish arguments.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    There may have been different fuel injectors used in Escorts of the same years. Werent they made in a couple of locations? I know some were made in Sonora Mexico and some in Wayne Michigan. They may well have sourced different versions of some parts due to that, and due to buying additional parts during a production year. Certainly Chrysler did this; making their cars/trucks with minor part variations during the course of a model year; based on who the supplier was at the time.
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    Whenever you're troubleshooting a problem where the car does not perform up to specification, the goal should then be to return things back to specification. By installing non-stock parts, you're further deviating from engineering specification. Basics to check are of course, tire pressure, do your wheels roll freely when jacked up in the air, condition of the OEM spark plugs, do you ever smell any fuel, etcetera. Let's start with the questions. Is this an automatic shift, or manual shift? If it is automatic, is it hitting all the gears and is the torque converter locking up?


    Reminds me of an alignment I got after hanging a new part. Was sitting waiting in the waiting room. Tech walks in, asks me "is there some trick to getting it to start?" my expression apparently asks for clarification and he exclaims "I can't get the key to turn in the ignition". Just as I was about to ask for the key he starts to describe the vehicle and it wasn't mine. It was the woman's 'scort (a wagon if memory serves) who was sitting a few chairs over from me. Apparently her key could unlock my doors but not start the vehicle. I've noticed in the past that the ignition was (far) more sensitive to key wear than the entry locks were.
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    There may be different injectors for Canada, federal, and California emissions versions of these cars. Don't assume you're always right or that the other guy is always wrong!

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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Im not always right. I was wrong about the date of the big Beaver County snowstorm in 1950 for instance. It was at thanksgiving, not new years.
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    Let's not assume that Denisond3 is one of the typical internet personalities. ;) His experiences and more importantly, willingness to share them are invaluable here.
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    Intuit, he's not the person I was alluding to. Denisond3 is one of the most respected commentators on feoa today.

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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    Wow! Hey, can I borrow your chainsaw?
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    Make that drive back up the i5 again, and sure

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    nice. yes it is an automatic and i have a tach. i watch the rpm in the hwy. all gears work fine and dont slip. far as i can tell. and lockup works. 70mph is 2600ish rpm. i tap on the break and it goes to 2800 then back. i had motorcraft double platnum in it before. 8k miles on them when changed. all looked similar. slightly brownish. i always have my tires slightly over pressure 36psi. i did just get my replacement oem t-stat housing. maybe it was staying in open loop? rarely gets above n. could a bad iac cause bad mileage? Wheels seem to roll easy. ive heard loosening the axle nut a tiny bit helps, but i think this would be hard on the bearing.
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    all i was saying was that what i found matched up with what i had read. but that was only dependent on where the cars were manufactured. i am in Minnesota btw.
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    I did asume it and for that i apologize. it is just so common these days for keyboard commandos to say things like they know everything just because they read it somewhere. this is why i keep looking after i find what i am looking for, just to make sure the information is correct. like actually seeing what system32 actually does before deleting it and not believing that it will solve your computers issues. I suppose in a way it does technically solve one problem. It just makes your pc inoperable.
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    Drove it with a bad alternator. Not intentionally, just happened while driving. No battery light came on either. I am not sure why not, but I was able to make it home and it's in the garage on a charger. If it matters, this is a NAPA rebuild with around 100K miles on the alternator, and I suspect brushes since it occasionally did charge (which is probably why I made it home).

    If NAPA won't warranty it, I might try to rebuild it. It's been squeaking for years and probably needs more then just brushes. Been watching this:
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    NAPA said that they would warrant my alternator. So I removed my alternator, and brought it to the Laurel, MD NAPA, which is connected to one of their warehouses. I get there, and after marveling at the sight of an 11 year old receipt, and showing it off to some co-workers, we looked at the replacement Rayloc remanufactured alternator. It looked fine, but made funny noises when I spun it. They said that I could wait until Monday or drive to Annapolis or Rockville to get another one. I opted to wait. This Laurel, MD store is close enough to my office in Columbia, MD so why not wait? Not surprised that a huge NAPA warehouse would only have one alternator in stock for a 1991-1996 Escort. They said that they would check the other one before they called me.
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