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Werid issue With 01 ZX2

Discussion in 'ZX2 1998-2004 2.0L DOHC' started by CSCustomcars, May 22, 2008.

  1. CSCustomcars

    CSCustomcars Guest

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    I just bought this as some of you know. When i bought it they told me the nylon bushings on the shifter cable were worn, causing the cable to rattle. But I'm not sure if that has anything to do with what I'm experiencing right now or not.

    This issue is when I'm cruising down the highway, anywhere around 65-70 (mind you this happens at all speeds, i can just feel it better around there), it feels like the motor is going along normally, then for just a second, it looses power slightly, but then comes right back. And it does this consistently.
    Now, I've never driven a car with Variable cam timing, so I'm not sure if what I'm experiencing is just the cam advancing and retarding. it only seems to do it at about 3000-3500 RPM's and above.

    Any idea as to what this could be? or is it normal?

    I'd like to take it to the dealership with some kind of idea of what's wrong, so I know if it should be covered under warrentee or not.

    Thanks.
  2. Teamexploder

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    You're saying it loses power, you weren't too clear to me, does the rpms drop when it "loses power"or do they rev up some then go back down to where they were?
  3. CSCustomcars

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    I'm not really sure. It's such a slight loss, and over such a short duration, I'm not really sure if the RPM's are dropping. But, I just started showing signs of a bad IAC, so maybe that's causing my problem.
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    If its a manual, it sounds to me like the clutch is slipping. I would need more details of the problem to give you a better opinion.
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    +1
  6. CSCustomcars

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    It is a manual.

    Although the clutch holds fine. I did the test of starting it at a very low speed in second, and it grabbed perfectly fine.

    But, it sounds like the through out bearing was starting to squeak. It sounds like theres a cricket under my car when the clutch is out. if I put a slight amount of pressure on it, like push the pedal down an inch, it stops.

    On another note though, the car kinda died on me today. I was driving my girlfriend to her doc's office, and it stalled on me about 6 times, was running really hot, and had a nasty rod knock. I think there was actually a couple problems that all accumulated at the same time. I think the timing belt may have been slipping, and it sounded like it may have spun a rod bearing. And I also think that issue I was describing in this post was transmission related all along.

    I've had this car for a week yesterday. I'm happy the warnetee is there. It had to be towed 15 miles that I would have never made is i tried to drive it. Although I probably would have been better if i drove it till it threw the rod through the block, and then the dealership would have no reason to not give me a new engine.

    Idk... i just seem to be having terrible luck lately. I had 3 car sales fall through, before I got the Escort, and now, that one dies on me...

    Idk man.
  7. Brtngeek

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    Throw out bearing makes noises when the clutch is depressed....atleast I think so....
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    ^^ I'm not too keen on transmissions as of yet. haven't taken that class yet. So, I just took my best guess.

    But on the original post. What other information do you need from me to make a better guess?
  9. Brtngeek

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    Yeah my throw out on my tranny is bad now and makes a ton of metal to metal type of sound (a grinding almost) when you push the clutch in.
  10. smoke-n-squeal

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    Same thing

    I get the same thing with my 2003 ZX2. I've had that issue ever since I got it with only a few thousand miles on it. I always thought it was the transmission slipping. It was in the deal shop a million times and they couldn't "reproduce" the issue they said. BUT mine is a Auto transmission. So I've been driving it as is. I'm now up to 6x,xxx miles and it started doing even worse. Brought it back to the dealer and they said my plugs are bad (they were replaced at 35,000). I'm thinking it's some sort of timing issue or a weak firing plug caused by a wire or bad plug that doesn't acutally misfire because it didn't register a code. When I get it back today I'll be replacing plugs and wires and see if that helps.

    Just as a side note I posted something like this a few years ago and got laughs and crickets on other forums.
  11. CSCustomcars

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    ^^ Thanks for the info.

    I'm going to change out the plugs and wires soon, but i was looking for recommendations. I doubt they've ever been changed.

    Got any ideas for plugs? How about wires?
  12. smoke-n-squeal

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    My last set was the Bosch +4 but they only lasted me about 30,000 and I've been told that Bosch plugs aren't liked by the ZX2s. I was told that the plugs and wires from Motorcraft are good and that most stick with those but I got pricing from my dealer on those and holy cow they want and arm and a leg. Some one else recommeded the Autolite ones. I was thinking about the Autolite XP Iridium or Double Platinum. As far as wires I was told they don't make much difference. I'll be ordering some today I'll let you know what I end up getting.
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    Thanks.

    I was considering going with the NKG's iridium IX's. And then getting the performance wires from zxtuner.com.
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    If you go with Iridium get the autometer. They work great. They only cost 4 dollars a plug too. I also put race wires and an mds booster coil. It smoothed down my idle.
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    ^^ You mean autolite?

    I thought autometer only made gauges....
  16. smoke-n-squeal

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    I ended up getting the Autolites Double Platnum since no one had the iridium in stock and I was having some problems and need my car to run. I got Bosch wires but when I went to put them on they were the wrong ones so I ended up just getting store brand (O'Reilly's wires). Bad news though it's still doing the same thing as it was before. Good thing I didn't have the guys at the Ford dealership do it.

    Any way I now have new plugs and wires and the car still feels like it looses power or surges how ever you want to look at it. I'm going to run it a few days and see if there is any changes and when I bring the wires back to Autozone I'll have them look at my system and see if I'm still getting a misfire like the Ford guys said I was.

    Many of you may ask why I broght it back to Ford. Becuase I only have 66,xxx miles on it and I have a 70,000 power train warranty on it.

    Does anyone know if the coil pack is covered under a powertrain warranty?
  17. smoke-n-squeal

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    Still doing it even with a new coil. It goes back to the dealers shop on Tuesday. I'm running out of ideas on what the issue is. New plugs, wires and coils and still missing or feels like it's missing. I guess they will tell me monday when they hook up their diag tool.
  18. CSCustomcars

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    Please let me in on what the issue is.

    When cash permits, I'm going to get NKG Iridium IX's, and possibly some Bosch wires. And when I have an extra $200 to spare, I'll get the MSD coil pack. maybe that will even out the spark if it's a weak spark in one cyl.
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    Ya, thats what I meant. What ever you do, DO NOT GET DENSO. They dont run right in fords.
  20. smoke-n-squeal

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    Not so good news

    Well, The good part is I was able to get the techs at the dealership feel the issue. Bad news is they have no idea what it is. They wanted me to pay them to try things to fix it. I told them they can try what ever they want and I'll pay for what ever fixed it but not everything else they tried that didn't fix it. So I took my car back. I'm going to get some fuel system cleaner this weekend and try that. I'm sure I'll have a tank or two ran through it before next Friday. I'll let you know my findings.

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