Sure i'll try to the best i can. I was going to get some here http://www.saenzperformance.com/index_home.asp but they wanted about $725 or so for a set. Well the guy that built my motor. Wouldnt let me spend that kind of money. And told me there had to be something else. So he took a few weeks and came up with the forged eagle b16 rods. He then took a earlier model escort crank. And machined them both to fit the honda rod. There is a bit more to doing it, but you get the idea behind it. With all the machining of those parts. I still came out cheaper than the saenz rods. And they are just fine for the power im looking to make. Dont get me wrong, saenz rods are suppose to be the best there is. But i just let him run with what he wanted to do. And it all worked out in the long run.