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Hi Guys,

New guy to this forum. I've got a '93 Wagon that's in need of a new exhaust. I've heard that the Pacesetter system doesn't hold up well and that it possibly will not fit the wagons. I searched the site for more info, but didn't get much usable info. Does anyone have any experience with the Pacesetter system, good or bad?

Thanks.
 

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If i remember correctly, Benjo used a pacesetter setup on his wagon, but I don't remember if it was just the header, or what.

the exhaust is identical up until the output of the muffler. The wagons take a 90° bend and exit to the side, whereas the other models go straight out the back. There are no differences other than that.

my half-assed exhaust cobbling:

--sarge
 

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Looks like you used "stock" pipes from an auto parts store...did you need any custom bends or can it be done with 90 & 45 degree bends? I'd rather do it myself, but I don't really have a GOOD muffler shop in the area.
 

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lol here we go again










It took some "tweaking"


I went and stripped the stock paint and sprayed with hi-temp

My exhaust is the full Pacesetter exhaust and cat-back system (2.25 inch mandrel bent), which I modified extensively
- Kept the EGR
- Cut the flexjoint for a real flexpipe
- Added a big resonator (to make it quieter and sound beefier)
- Had all the joints welded shut last January

It's been 14 months and it is holding up just fine.
 

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Jesus Christ, what's up with all the Escort owners near Pittsburgh all of a sudden popping up on this forum? This is two people less than 30 minutes away from me in a week. . .
 

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Thanks for the info Benjo. I'm not going with the headers and I don't need to replace the cat yet, so I'm hoping to "bolt on" the new exhaust. I like the idea of the resonator (just a glasspack, right?), and repainting the pipe with high temp paint for more protection will probably be a good idea too. How's it sound? I'm a little older than 18, and I don't really want the full "ricer" sound, but I do want the better performance at highway speeds that I think this will provide.
 

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Well, right now I'm at college at Rochester Institute of Technology in Rochester, NY, but my mom and dad live in Grove City and Cranberry Township respectively.
 

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Butler93wagon said:
Thanks for the info Benjo. I'm not going with the headers and I don't need to replace the cat yet, so I'm hoping to "bolt on" the new exhaust. I like the idea of the resonator (just a glasspack, right?), and repainting the pipe with high temp paint for more protection will probably be a good idea too. How's it sound? I'm a little older than 18, and I don't really want the full "ricer" sound, but I do want the better performance at highway speeds that I think this will provide.
I got a good deal on the parts, bought them from former ERDT members. Since I was doing all the work myself (with just a socket set and a hacksaw) I thought it was better to do it all in one shot and not worry about the exhaust for the next 10 years. :D

As for the sound, my current setup is a notch or two louder than stock. Before I added the resonator it sounded semi-ricey and loud, but not as loud as other cars with coffee cans. The resonator I used is more restrictive than usual, but if muffles everything but the very low frequencies.
 

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Benjo said:
Butler93wagon said:
Thanks for the info Benjo. I'm not going with the headers and I don't need to replace the cat yet, so I'm hoping to "bolt on" the new exhaust. I like the idea of the resonator (just a glasspack, right?), and repainting the pipe with high temp paint for more protection will probably be a good idea too. How's it sound? I'm a little older than 18, and I don't really want the full "ricer" sound, but I do want the better performance at highway speeds that I think this will provide.
I got a good deal on the parts, bought them from former ERDT members. Since I was doing all the work myself (with just a socket set and a hacksaw) I thought it was better to do it all in one shot and not worry about the exhaust for the next 10 years. :D

As for the sound, my current setup is a notch or two louder than stock. Before I added the resonator it sounded semi-ricey and loud, but not as loud as other cars with coffee cans. The resonator I used is more restrictive than usual, but if muffles everything but the very low frequencies.
Thanks...think I'll give it a try.
 

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James92Scort said:
Thats a pretty sick setup Benjo. Looks badass.

how much did it cost you?
It's been a while...

~$200 shipped for the header and catback (I bought them along with other parts, so I'm not sure of its actual price)
$65 shipped for the high-flow cat
$20 shipped for the resonator
~$25 for paint and paint stripper
~$50 for welding, header mods, and disposing the old exhaust
~$25 for gaskets, clamps, misc. hardware


 

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Mysta316 said:
wow thats alot of clamps :D
lol!! Yeah, I don't have a welder right now. As soon as I'm all better and able to get back to the garage, though, I'm buying one.

basically, right now, I'm using the stock GTX downpipe, trimmed a hair to not be so close to the lower control arm. Then a reducer to some 2.25" flex-pipe, about 3 feet, then another reducer reversed to go back to a 2.5" high-flow cat. Then it's 2.5" aluminized mandrel-bends (90°) around the gas tank, then a couple of the same type 45° over the rear suspension, then into a Moroso Spiral-Flow muffler.

But now, since I've got the awesome Corksport downpipe, I've got to get it flanged, and then do a proper welded exhaust. But I've got to get physically able to get back to my garage and do the work first.

--sarge
 
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