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i had someone ask me something recently. He wants to swap in a GTX into his ZX2. dont ask me why, because i dont know.

does anyone know if a 2Gen GT's crossmember swap onto the zx2? or is the mounting points the same between the BP and 2L ZX2 engine?

or is this guy way out to lunch? ie 2 sandwiches and a eggsalad short of a picnic for 2?
 

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he's a french fry short of a happy meal.

It'd be more worth his time to work on the 2.0 zetec motor. The ZX2 is nothing like the 2nd Gens.
 

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wait, lets see,
we have a zx2 in a 2nd gen wagon a 94. we used the same front mount, and we are using 2ng gen gt manula tranny mounts.
lets see and a gtx will fit into a wagon, or lx. both with no real mods just swapping bolt on parts.

hmmm

it should still fit, just he will need motor, tranny, ecu, axels. basically everythign it would take to swap a gtx into a lx 2gen, just a 2ng gen gt has a few more matching parts.

2.0 ztech will fit in a 91-96 lx, and gt
gtx will fit 91-96 lx and gt

so why wouldnt a gtx fit to a zx2?? same mounts and tranny mounts. just the bard that goes from left to right under the car theat works like a tie bar on a zx2 there are no mounting holes for it on a lx in the arms.
 

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Christ, who cares if it fits? my arguement is why not just work on the damn 2.0 in the damn ZX2, it's a stiffer better engineered body over that of the older, obsolete 2nd Gens. My whole point is just work with what you have and not waste money on swapping an older motor into the chassis to make the power.
 

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run close to the same , but wouldnt a gtx handle more boost than a ztech. plus he woudl be the first to complete this, 4-5 people have talked about it, but no one has done it. you can find a gt with a blown motor cheap, (then you can get the rear disc) and a gtx for like 600-1000
 

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Probably. but the money he saves from not having to do the swap he could build the Zetec with 9:1 CR pistons and run mad boost on it anyway.
 

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James92Scort said:
Christ, who cares if it fits? my arguement is why not just work on the damn 2.0 in the damn ZX2, it's a stiffer better engineered body over that of the older, obsolete 2nd Gens. My whole point is just work with what you have and not waste money on swapping an older motor into the chassis to make the power.
I agree he should just invest into the Zetec, but you said:
James92Scort said:
The ZX2 is nothing like the 2nd Gens.
And that's just not true.
 

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Jeffescortlx said:
James92Scort said:
Christ, who cares if it fits? my arguement is why not just work on the damn 2.0 in the damn ZX2, it's a stiffer better engineered body over that of the older, obsolete 2nd Gens. My whole point is just work with what you have and not waste money on swapping an older motor into the chassis to make the power.
I agree he should just invest into the Zetec, but you said:
James92Scort said:
The ZX2 is nothing like the 2nd Gens.
And that's just not true.
It's a protege chassis, engineered by Mazda, where as the ZX2 is engineered by Ford. Sure they used the same specs and shit, but it's a differently designed and put together car. So why does that matter anyway? ZX2 > 2nd Gen

2.0 Zetec > 1.8 JDM GTX IMO, easier to spend the money on what you already have and build from there than it is to spend the money for something you don't have and then spend yet more to build that.
 

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James92Scort said:
The ZX2 is nothing like the 2nd Gens.

It's a protege chassis, engineered by Mazda, where as the ZX2 is engineered by Ford. Sure they used the same specs and ****, but it's a differently designed and put together car.
Where did you hear that? That's the first time I heard that the Zx2 chassis is copy of mazda made by ford. Just does'nt sound right. The Focus and Contour is Ford, and they also use the SPI (focus) and Zetec, just see's strange Ford would build to different chassis and use the same power plant.
 

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So suddenly i'm making it up...whatever.

Ford designed the Zx2 where as Mazda designed the 2nd gen chassis (which was first used in 90 for the protege until 94) and Ford used it from 91-96.

Now am I making that shit up too or has everyone on this board just been lying out of their asses for the past 2 years I've been here?
 

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the zx2 uses the same chassis as the 97-204 escorts ( i forget when they ended) which basically uses the same 91-96 escort (90-94 protege chassis)
same engine mounts, same front to rear cross brace, same radiators, zx2 s/r are using 91-96 disk brakes. just the zx2 and 3rd gen escorts had a little beafier suspension in the rear and front. lets see zx2 are runnign wagon and gt rear sway bars. same m3x seats fit in all 2 and 3rd and zx2. lets see we have a 94 wagon running a ztech we changed axles, tranny, and engine use all the same mounts. changed comp and fuel pump. runnig gt rear brakes, zx2 sengine mount inserts on gt motor mounts. just some things are moved diffrently. the contour, and focus have a diffretn tranny and mounting on the motor they dont have the same front mounts, but are the same motors. just smoe parts are diffretn.why do you think zx2 were called escorts, casue they were, thats why its bagged on them. its all based on the same tranny.
so i have one freint with a ztech in a wagon, and another with a gtr, why woudlnt a gtx fit in a zx2. and if you build a ztech a turbo kits is gonna run little more than wehat you can get a gtx for, he can pick up a gt for cheap, and get extra parts, swap in a gtx and start runnig 10 pus boost on the stock motor.
a 1.8 to a 2.0 have like what 3 hp diffrence. my gt with less mod and more miles has dynoed more hp that some ztechs, (by luck) there both really good motors. but i have seen more ztech engine swaps of blown motors that i have of 1.8 mazda bp's, plus the zx2 was known for blowing trannyts, so why not go for a gt tranny to a gtx. or build hp, then spend the 1,600 for the built escape tranny with the stonger diff. to handle the hp of the ztech.
 

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James92Scort said:
Ford designed the Zx2 where as Mazda designed the 2nd gen chassis (which was first used in 90 for the protege until 94) and Ford used it from 91-96.

Now am I making that **** up too or has everyone on this board just been lying out of their asses for the past 2 years I've been here?
WTF are you talking about? All USDM escorts made since 91 have had the same mazda chassis underneath. All USDM escorts made since 91 have used Ford designed upper bodies & sheetmetal.

Geeze.. this rates up there with you telling everyone the suspension on the GT is different from the suspension on the LXs. I think you take your speculation way too far sometimes.
 

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what? wait...so what Mazda chassis is the 97+ Escort use? What Mazda car shares that platform? I was under the impression that after 96 Ford used their own design and platform to build on. I mean that would make sense to me, but I guess I was wrong and the all knowing asshole that is the Great BeaverBoy is the pimp.

The LX and GT do use different suspension components. Might have the same mounting points but I'm sure the LX doesn't use the same setup.
 

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Yeah, blood blood blood!!!
Stop bitching each other, we just are talking about something, maybe none of us have the knowledge, nobody is perfect, and maybe none of us is wrong and right...

I'm like laughing at you because it's like girl bitching each other...

Just post some proof that the two is the same, or not. Like that, we will see exactly...
 

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James, if you would ever stop posting and actually read you'd have noticed that the so-called 3rd gen escorts are the same vehicles as the 2nd gens, just with new sheetmetal. There is no new Ford-designed platform wearing an Escort badge. That's what the Focus is. How do you think Skuce managed to glue a ZX2 front-end onto a 2nd gen sedan?

The suspensions are identical between the LX and the GT with the exception of the rear sway bar being a teensy bit larger. You're just spouting off stuff about different components when you really have no idea.

I'm just sick of cleaning up behind you... if you don't know either say that you don't know and offer a 'grain-of-salt' guess, or just don't reply.
 

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Shit. You can glue Civic Bumpers to Escorts, does that mean Civics and Escorts use the same frame? Yeah whatever. You still didn't answer my question, what mazda uses the 3rd gen underpinnings? and how the fuck can you still be sure that it's a mazda design.

you know what.

Fuck it. I'm tired of this site. I'm tired of being treated like I'm a piece of shit. have fun with your wagon and all your disposable pieces of shit you guys call cars. So glad I moved on.

Have a nice life. Delete my name, I don't care. I'm deleting this from my registry.
 

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i just find it funny that everyone knows all about suspension and what motors will fit where.....but when i ask a question about the possibilities of my cooling fan issues, no one will reply.

Personally i dont see how any of you can give advice about swapping motors and such when you cant even give advice on how to fix the one that you got.
 
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