[Biggins2121]

Ok I remeber reading some thing about this guy puttin V8 in pontiac Fiero. Now if he can put an LS1 in that small of an engine bay cant we do the same with our cars. Also im not for sure but wasnt the fieros FW drive? SO is it do able also what kind effect would it have on the frame.

 

[coyote-x]

The Fiero had a choice of a V6 or straight four, and it was a mid engined rear wheel drive rig. (Or rear engined, it really depends on whether it's before or behind the axel). It wouldn't have the same effect on an Escort at all... Really you can get that much power out of a four cylander without screwing your handling over real bad.

 

[James92Scort]

If you have the money, resources and time to put a V8 in your Escort... try to put in a Cobra motor... 390 underrated horses... if you can get traction, you'll kill at the strip.

 

[kikoy]

on fiero's its basicallt a RWD and its mid-ranged eninge...it has the option oif the iron duke(2.5) or the 2.8l v6......i was supposed to get the iron duke motor for my chevette...anyway you'll just screw your handling if you yank a V8 in(i second james' opionion)......just go for the GTX or the KLZE or get another car....

 

[Beaverboy]

Ok I remeber reading some thing about this guy puttin V8 in pontiac Fiero. Now if he can put an LS1 in that small of an engine bay cant we do the same with our cars.

Of course.. with enough money and time. If you'd like to spend the next 14 months building custom mounts for a mustang driveline in your escort.. don't let us stop you. In fact... pull it off and then share some info and you'll be the shit around here and a legend for a few months.

 

[TitoElSpicco]

SO is it do able also what kind effect would it have on the frame.

Escort's don't have frames.

 

[kikoy]

sub-frames is the one he's talking(am just guessing).....

 

[James92Scort]

Escorts don't have frames. it's a unibody car.

 

[TitoElSpicco]

Escorts don't have frames.

I believe this was already covered in the preceding post which stated:

Escort's don't have frames.

.. but thanks for the reitteration, buddy!

edit - and yes, a V8 would essentially twist an Escort in half. The chassis is considerably weaker than a fox-body Mustang chassis, and they start twisting so much (around 350hp) that their doors and hatches literally pop open due to distortion of the body during acceleration.

 

[chadgore]

sure all that is true but with the right mounts and supports, it would work great. think about it, the focus is a unibodied car but they are putting v8's in them with out much problem. just look at the hardware they use. i say go for it or i'll beat you to it.

 

[TitoElSpicco]

$100 says neither of you ever get it done.

Focuses (or Foci) are CONSIDERABLY stronger chassis' than 2nd Gen Escorts, which are stronger than 1st Gen Escorts. Focuses barely handle it, and that's with subframe connectors.

edit - I put in the smiley 'cause that looked like I was being a dick.

 

[James92Scort]

Escorts don't have frames.

I believe this was already covered in the preceding post which stated:

Escort's don't have frames.

.. but thanks for the reitteration, buddy!

edit - and yes, a V8 would essentially twist an Escort in half. The chassis is considerably weaker than a fox-body Mustang chassis, and they start twisting so much (around 350hp) that their doors and hatches literally pop open due to distortion of the body during acceleration.

I know you said it, but kikoy decided to not read it, so yes I reiterated it.

 

[TitoElSpicco]

I appreciate it. I love you.

 

[Electronikal]

and what about creating a frame for the escort ?

 

[coyote-x]

What about a third gen vs foci for frame stiffness? The base models both have the same engine... In fact they use the same stuff as an Escort, for the most part. (which is why it boggles me that they killed the escort when it was their best seller... as far as econoboxes go...) anywho. They say the third gen has a stiffer frame (they mean unibody) than the second gen, hence better handling, does the same hold true for stiffness under accelleration? (Assuming it had the same kinda connectors or whatever the foci use...)

Not that I'd ever do it, because why add like twice the weight to get that extra hp when you could just FI or ... whatever. In fact why /bother/ with it at all?

 

[TitoElSpicco]

and what about creating a frame for the escort ?

.. because it would be easier, cheaper, and more logical to just buy a Mustang or a pre-fox body framed muscle car.

There is absolutely no reason to put that much work into an Escort.

They say the third gen has a stiffer frame (they mean unibody) than the second gen, hence better handling, does the same hold true for stiffness under accelleration??

Yes, 3rd gens are considerably stiffer than 2nd gens.

 

[HeebZdawg]

yutt why add twice the weight, then ya really aint gonna get that special effect of having a light car with a cobra engine in it... or whatever powerfull engine ur tryin to put in it. Ya really think about it, escorts were made to have "some" look n was for a commuter car rather then racin n etc. so maybe thats why they made a unibody instead of a whole frame, so they could sell it cheaper n maybe it was easier. i don't know but i have thought of puttin a 5.0 in my 89 escort before. lol, first reaction i got from friends is " YA chasis will snap!" lol

 

[4rd_freak]

the northstar motor swap into the fiero is a very simple task alot of the time ecu need not to be swapped, also with this swap most are putting in the th125(c) front wheel drive transmission, and mods to the cradle are essential also home made front motor mount (nutty fast by the way) as for the escort I have seen a 96 gt with the mazda rotory motor and a 91 ranger rear cut away from the frame and welded to the escort sub body, custom driveline and mounts for trans. and motor not a bad setup but never got to drive it, thinking alot of work and money for this swap, better to work on 4cyl. for me

 

[4rd_freak]

as for the 5.0L engine in the 3rf gen. scort, it is possible but MASSIVE mods. are required, main problem is the cooling, no room for the 5.0L to breath being in such a small engine bay, there are ways around all the problems by I assure you that if you do it will no longer look like a scort.

 

[TitoElSpicco]

heebydog - If you want a fast, V8, RWD car, an Escort is 'theoretically' the worst possible platform to start with. It would be easier to make a Mustang run 8's than to make an Escort run a 12. Maybe not cheaper, but definately easier.

4rd freak -

1. Putting a Northstar V8 in a Fiero is not easy. It is almost as far from easy as it can possibly be.

2. Cooling would be the least of my worries after realizing how much welding would need to be done.

edit - reading that again - Why would a larger engine bay help keep the engine cool? The stock EGT radiator would probably be fine for a stock 5.0.