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turbo'ing my 1.8

Discussion in 'Forced Induction & Nitrous' started by degree_of_mentality, Oct 21, 2003.

  1. degree_of_mentality

    degree_of_mentality Guest

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    i was about to get started with a turbo install in my 91 gt. just a few questions for ya.

    1. can i use the gtx intake manifold without the turbo? i have one, and was going to put it in if it will work.
    2. what turbo's will bolt up to the gtx manifold, i would like to know this so i can scavenge the junkyards.
    3. is it better to use the gtx manifold over my stock peice?
    4. what is the cheapest route to go for the fuel management?


    please let me know, someone. i would like to get started on this install.
  2. escortgtoh

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    this doesnt need to be here this is only for wtb/fs
  3. sethxtreme

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    give the guy a break, alright id say look back in the posts and check to see if anyone who had a turbo for sale is still for sale...its easier there. And who knows you might just get a deal on this.
  4. TheBlade

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    For fuel, mechanical is cheaper to do then electronic.

    Pump, regulator, and boost sensative fuel pressure riser....some new lines and fittings and injectors.


    Yes the GTX intake manifold will work (I think the GT flows better though)


    IHI RHB5 VJ20 will bolt up to the manifold. Found on 323GTX (nearly impossible to find in junkyars)...the closest relation to the VJ20 is the VJ11 on the old turbo Probes and MX6's.
  5. degree_of_mentality

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    yeah, but will the vj11 bolt up to the manifold? if it does, i am in luck. i used to have a 92 probe, and i built it up, so i still have to factory turbo. so thats cool. any idea where the cheapest place to get the new fuel system from? i am doing this budget oriented, so it will be a big help if i can get most of the parts from the junkyard. and any help is greatly appreciated.
  6. TheBlade

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    ???? About the turbo...honstly you might be better off just getting a killer GT25 and having a custom manifold made.

    As for the fuel system, there is no "cheap" way to do it, just less expensive. You cant buy the fuel system all at once, so you're going to have to custom build most of it.

    Walboro pump $149
    Aeromotive Fuel Press Reg. $139
    Votech Fuel Press Riser $120
    Injectors : $80-300
    3/8" Copper line: 15 bucks for 20'
    3/8" Braided fuel lines (100 bucks a foot)

    two choices on the fuel rail:
    I'm building my own custom high flow fuel rail...Its going to cost me quite a bit and I wont have the use of my car for a few days....

    or.. Vishnu makes one, its $1200 bucks


    Since I'm working on making a rail with a fab-mechanic friend of mine...if you're interested in purchasing one, I'll see if we can duplicate the set up we use on mine.
  7. degree_of_mentality

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    yeah, if you can, let me know what you would charge. also, i am just trying to go the cheapest route for right now. later on, after i already have the calibration done, and i have the engine management that i want, then i will start going for the big shit. until then. but seriously, let me know. and another question that i have is this, i have the rx-7 vaf installed, so, can i go with bigger injectors and have the vaf recalibrated for it since it is of bigger diameter? would that give me any gains?
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  9. TheBlade

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    Holy-Crapoly....they have come down in price over the past 2 years. I asked Adam Christopher what it was...when he went turbo a little over 2 years ago. Same with Denis Gagnon, I believe. I remember him saying it was like 1200 bucks.

    Anyhow, my friend is working on building one. I'm using an Aeromotive Fuel Pressure regulator now..all the ports are 3/8" So I'm wanting to make a rail that has an inlet 3/8". Under the flow rates I tried working out, a rail that large would allow enough flow to power ANY Escort set up.

    Same with my intercooler piping. As soon as it gets finished, I can have it duplicated alot cheaper then it costed to have it built on my car. That is if you're planning on running a Starion/Conquest intercooler or something around 25" long + tanks. But it would be able to bolt up to the VJ20 directly and tuck around the subframe with the stock bumper on (like I have it :D )
  10. 92gt5spd

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    well my vj20, exhaust manifold, gtx intake piping all gets here in 2 weeks...

    this is rather late to ask...

    but..will it fuck w/ the ECU at all?

    running stock boost at 7 psi has been proven not to deliver fuel cutout so i plan on doing that for now. who knows for sure if my ecu will handle the turbo? like i said....i'm running a complete stock setup first....before i start adding all sorts of shit...no sense in putting money into new fuel system, intake, intercooler, all that crap just to find out my car's computer doesnt like the turbo.


    this is for theblade.....w/ the fuel system. you can take the pressure regulator, pump and injectors from other ford turbo cars.

    http://www.kveder.net/escort/tech/turbo-various.html
    as done from here...which can all be found w/ a lil work at a junkyard.
  11. TheBlade

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    something weird happened here, just read the next post
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    Hey if all your going to do is run under 10psi on the turbo set up, buy a GTX ECU and I'll sell you the 330cc injectors you need from a GTX. I bought them, but then decided to run way more boost.

    The stock computer wont like the turbo to answer your question. If you use a Fuel pressure regulator and lower your initial pressure and then use a fuel pressure riser and the 330cc injectors I have you can run mid-range boost levels pretty easily. That's your cheapest way to go right now. You'll need a better pump too, but let me look up the company I got my pump from...it was an AWESOME deal. it was like 97 bucks for a walboro 255L/H pump.

    But your stock set up will choke around 4-5psi. just putting in the 330 injectors I have will help a bunch, from there the pump, then the regulator to get rid of overfueling at low idles and cold starts. then the fuel pressure riser.

    email me if you want the injectors,( [email protected] ) if not a mazda guy around here was asking about them, but I always give scort owners first dibbs.
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    I think you have your Ford and Mazda parts interchangeability all mixed up.
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    Good eye, Jeff.

    Yeah.. those ford parts are going into a ford engine in a 1st gen GT on that site.
  15. 92gt5spd

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    yeh my bad, i didnt even look at the link........i got it from my friend.

    now w/ the gtx ecu.........dont they have different wire harness? i really dont want to do rewiring damnit......

    as for the pump and injectors.......i heard rx7 shit will work...that true...

    I just have like 2 weeks to set this up so i can get the thing in and running in one weekend. I dont wanna have the turbo get here and then not be ready.
  16. TheBlade

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    Yes an RX7 pump will work out of a 91..but you may have to finess the wiring a little for the pump. No biggie...still there's a guy that sells pumps for Syclones and Typhoons in Tx he's the guy to get a pump from, since the pump will be brand new for 97 bucks.


    like I said, I can sell you some 330cc injectors 150 and their yours...give me a day to get some pictures up. running into problems getting power to the camera.
  17. 92gt5spd

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    k....i am no longer worried bout the fuel system....

    does anyone know about the gtx ecu?

    will i really have to replace ecu if i plan on runnin 9psi? if so....what wires have to be changed to run it on the gtx ecu??
  18. Protoss

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    to run a GTX ECU you will need to find a "Donor" ECU. grab on from a mazda protege and pick it apart. there will be blanks in your stock harness. some of these are filled by the GTX ECU. i'll have to go hunting through my literature to find the 2 wiring diagrams. iirc the GTX and GTR have the same pinout. i have a GTR pin out ... somewhere.... Corksport does have gtx ecu's. also check www.323gtx.co.uk you might get lucky.

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