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This post isnt going to comprise of me asking if there is a turbo that will work on the ZX2 :p (1998 ZX2)

I've been trying to do some research but google has yet been unyielding given the criteria I am searching by.

A couple of people at work have been telling me some little bits about possible working turbo's.

One person who ows a '88 MX-6 Turbo tells me that the '88-'92 626 GT turbo might bolt on as the engine is a 2.0L DOHC, I'd have to see the placement and layout of the engine to be sure.

Another person tells me that a turbo setup from a '88 or so Ford Turbocoupe will bolt right on, apparently it did on his Explorer with the DOHC 2.3L 4 banger. Now the higher displacement is just due to higher diameter ports for the air flow etc correct?

Any how, I figured I would open this up for discussion


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OK, this is a little strange. I'm not a Turbo Expert, and I'm sure the turbo guys will be happy to comment for you here, but since I like ZX2s, here's me:
I could be wrong, but I thought the 626/MX6 in question has 2.2 liters, not 2.0. I know the N/A ones are 2.2, and I thought the Turbo models used the same engine. Maybe not. Anyway, if it is 2.0 liters, It means nothing. The displacement, number of valves, and number of camshafts being the same as your car's doesn't make it the same engine or have anything to do with fitting. The Engines are very very different and can't share parts. Yours is a Ford Zetec. That was a Mazda motor unrelated to the Zetec.
The Ranger is a different story. The turbo from the T-Bird fit because it was EXACTLY THE SAME ENGINE, the 2.3 Lima ohc. That and that alone is why it fit. Whether it was a good idea is debatable, I figured a swap would be easier but then I'm not really up on that stuff.
Displacement is the total volume of all the cylinders. The area of the circle of the cylinder times the stroke length times the number of cylinders.
Port diameter bla bla bla what are you talking about? If you don't even know how to get the displacement, and if you think all engines the same size are identical, what are you doing considering major engine work? I know that seems harsh, but everyone reading your post is asking the same thing.
If there is a turbo that fits a Zetec, it is in the aftermarket. Some company might for all I know make a kit just for your car. Some guys might have found a shelf unit that goes good. If there is one from an existing car that just happens to be a good application, then great, but that doesn't have to be 2 liters. The engine size means diddly squat. There will be unending fabbing. The place to find out all this is
http://www.zxtuner.com
 

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Yo thanks.

Well the reason why I'm making these plans is because I have the resources to do it. I ask these questions because I DONT know whats what really when it comes to motors etc, I know very little.

Which is why I continue on the pursuit of knowledge, to actually learn how these things work and therefore better appreciate work that is done to it so that in the future I can actually understand what has to go into a project of such magnatude.

I'm not the type of person who pays for things to be done and not have a clue whats going on. I learn about the process and whats involved and the outcome etc, and then take it in to be done because I don't have the intimate knowledge and personal ability to translate knowledge into application when it comes to motor vehicles and major engine/drivetrain work.

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Check the sticky at the top of the forced induction page. The '84-'85 EXP turbo manifold will bolt up as well as the RS manifold from the UK. The probe/mx-6 turbo will bolt to the EXP manifold (as well as the EXP turbo) and any standard T3 will bolt to the RS manifold. Management is a little different for you since yours is a '98 with the returnless fuel system, you can't go the FMU route, but a diablo or superchip will work as well as the Pro-M returnless fuel controller:
http://pro-flow.com/Fuel%20Systems/Fuel%20System.htm

Also, check out JeffescortLX's cardomain page
 

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dok33 said:
Check the sticky at the top of the forced induction page. The '84-'85 EXP turbo manifold will bolt up as well as the RS manifold from the UK. The probe/mx-6 turbo will bolt to the EXP manifold (as well as the EXP turbo) and any standard T3 will bolt to the RS manifold. Management is a little different for you since yours is a '98 with the returnless fuel system, you can't go the FMU route, but a diablo or superchip will work as well as the Pro-M returnless fuel controller:
http://pro-flow.com/Fuel%20Systems/Fuel%20System.htm

Also, check out JeffescortLX's cardomain page
He has a Zx2, with a Zetec. So the RS and EXP manifold will not work, and my cardomain page wont be much help since all of my info is for the SOHC.

Sub0, your Zetec is a good motor, no reason to swap it out for a old Mazda 2.2. In fact your motor turbo'd would probly out perform that motor anyway's.
Gude makes a Turbo lit for the Zx2, it's bascily over priced, incomplete and does'nt even fully fuction all the time. You could either peice together your own, or pay the bucks for turbo Tom to build you a kit-he make excellent quility.
 

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Yea, I havent run across the Gude kit in my searches thus far. In terms of piecing together a kit, its all generic except for the intake and exhaust manifolds and the pipe routing right? (in terms of parts to source up)

Please correct me if I'm wrong
 

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You could get a JGS manifold and then source the rest of the turbo components. It's would be a heck of a lot cheaper and you'd probably get a better bang for the buck too.
 

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go to www.Gude.com and you will find their kit for the ZX2... if that's not what you are looking for ten I wish you best of luck. You really seem to want to learn about this stuff much like I do. someday I'll get around to the car stuff for now I'm stuck having to fill my head with other useless knowledge that won't even make me appreciate anything later... Again, best of luck, and I'm pretty sure that he turbo kit for the ZX2 is on the Gude website. I've been on that site myself many times looking atdifferent things and calling them. If it isn't listed give them a call and see if the stopped making it or what.

Edit: it's still there, just click on "Turbo" on the left of the page, then choose the "98-2004 Escort" from the dropdown it is for the ZX2 just doesn't say that in the list. In the details it says that the turbo can produce up to 22 lbs of boost, I don't know how much the Block can take but I'd assume it can handle a decent amount. It claims the kit can make up to 250 HP and lists all the parts that are included.
 

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RE Gude Stinger Kit

I sent off an email yesterday to Gude.com and the folks there were nice enough to email me back with a plethora of information regarding pricing

Btw this is a direct bolt on for the ZX2. no loss of A/C, however on Automatic models a bracket will have to be fabricated.

STINGER PRICES ZX2 ZTEC
TURBO KITS UP TO 205 HP TO 380 HP
HEAD UP KITS UP TO 180 HP TO 225 HP

BIG BORE THROTTLE BODIE 295.00
INTAKE CAMSHAFT ZTEC EXCHANCE 350.00
EXHAUST CAMSHAFT ZTEC. Exchange 350.00
PORTED POLISHED CLYINDER HEAD. Exchange 950.00

HEAD PACKAGE BIG BORE THROTTLE BODIE
PORTED POLISHED HEAD AND CAM KIT exchange 1650.00
HEADER LONG TUNED 4X1 MERGE COLLECTOR

REPLACES CAT. CROME PLATED. 460.00
CAT BACK TURBO HIGH FLOW EXHAUST 535.00

STINGER BOLT ON BASIC TURBO KIT WITH INJECTORS
AND 70/80 MM MASS AIR, INJECTOR SIZE OPTIONAL 2365.00
FRONT STURT BRACE 135.00

BIG BOOST KIT
INTER COOLER KIT, BLOW OFF VALVE, J & S SAFE GUARD
SPARK AND TIMMING CONTROL 1375.00
FORGED ROD AND PISTON KITS FOR TURBO 975.00



Above is an image of the Big Boost kit.

All in all it does seem to be a tad pricey, but that is the premium you have to pay I suppose for a direct 100% bolt on.

I may just take my time and source up my own Turbo setup, and may shell out for the header kit, but I need to learn more first.

Peace

Gabe

EDIT:

They also included a simple graph displaying the Dyno'd boost levels:

ZTEC DYNO ZX2 ZX3 ZX5
 

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Oh yea? Well maybe I'll just get a kit put together, each pay check buy a component then in about six months go about the install (with help of course)

So the only real question I got right now is about piping, is it all generic, or is it custom. In the aspect of the routing to avoid certain engine components and cabling etc?
 

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If you're still interested in a complete kit, here's the one Tom offers:
http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=ZX2_Kit

It's a little bit more than the Gude setup, but the management is alot better IMHO. You can also buy the setup in different partial kits if you don't want to drop all the cash at once.
 

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If I were you, I would peice together my own kit. Cheaper and you know what's going under the hood. You'll have to select your own management solution but that's not all bad. As for the piping in the guide kit, I'm sure they will say they have custom but that's only generic piping cut to fit. :p You can do everything they have done yourself and improve on it. And the Zetec can handle upto 10psi on a regular basis with good tuning. Key thing with any turbo car is tuning. You could probably get it to handle more but that's the most I have heard of without people blowing them because their managment sucked. Notice a pattern here. :wink:




p.s. did I mention tuning? :lol:
 

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wow that kit is tight. for 6150 usd id drive down and get it installed.

I'm gonna concentrate first on the engine build up first, thinking about the 2.0 head complete with the 227 degree @ .50 and .400 lift intake/exhaust cams, MSD blaster coil, ODP/UDP, drop a cat back system on it, short shifter and a centerforce dual friction clutch. I'm also thinking about one of those rebuilt trannies from zxtuner as well for 1600. Other than that I want to replace all the bushings in the car with urethane bushings, replace the stock struts with s/r's and new coil overs, as well as find a big brake kit that will fit on the car with out too much muss and fuss.

anyway im off work yay!

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sub0 said:
wow that kit is tight. for 6150 usd id drive down and get it installed.

I'm gonna concentrate first on the engine build up first, thinking about the 2.0 head complete with the 227 degree @ .50 and .400 lift intake/exhaust cams, MSD blaster coil, ODP/UDP, drop a cat back system on it, short shifter and a centerforce dual friction clutch. I'm also thinking about one of those rebuilt trannies from zxtuner as well for 1600. Other than that I want to replace all the bushings in the car with urethane bushings, replace the stock struts with s/r's and new coil overs, as well as find a big brake kit that will fit on the car with out too much muss and fuss.

anyway im off work yay!

peace

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No I have an apartment and lots of other bills. I just happen to work ALOT of overtime :)

lol, I havent lived at home for about 2 years now (Moved out @ 20)
 
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