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Tire size?

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  1. racingbp

    racingbp FEOA Member

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    I'm gonna be racing on a 1/4 mile dirt track. It is pretty narrow and not banked. Its like the completly opposite of the other track This is a hard question to answer but what would be my best bet on tires and sizes. The 2 times i raced there last year I had my 215/65/15, which are the tires i use for the other track. I know I need to at least get 14's but i dont know about the other 2 numbers. I'm pretty sure 215 is to big but how small do i go 195?185? lower? What do you guys run on a track like this. Thanks in advance.
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    First a few questions for YOU, lol! :lol:

    What type of escort do you have? Gt, LX, Pony, ZX2, LXE? What year?

    What type of transmission? Auto or stick?

    What tire rules do you have in the class you race in?

    I need to know this stuff, as it all helps determine the best size.
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    Skidder84 New Member

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    What if it was a GT, stick, and rules are,

    Wheels:

    DOT tires only.
    OEM steel or aluminum wheel only.
    Maximum width 55 series and must fit 8 ½" hoop.
    Grooving allowed, but no mud tires.
    Any offset wheel allowed.
    RIGHT FRONT — 60 series or wider only with 40 lbs minimum air pressure.
    Right front must durometer 45 after the main event, no cool off period.
    All cars in top 5 will be checked for durometer rule."
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    I got a 93 escort gt 5 speed. At the tracks i race at they dont enforce the rules that much so i can pretty much run whatever, but they want all 4 the same size. Once the feature for the hornets come around the track is dry slick pretty much everynight. I know im gonna have to get 14s but 195/60/14? 195/60/14? or something else. I know it will be a thing of trial and error but I want to get going in the right path to start. Also what kind of tires do you run and we can run winter tires what would be the best?
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    Skidder84 New Member

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    I don't think anyone gets on here anymore
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    hmm....

    Well, I ran a high banked 1/3 mile, and ran 185/70R14, and was right at 7200 RPM by the end of the straight. A 185/70R14 is 24.2" diameter. A 195/60R14 would be the same diameter, so you DON'T want to run that, as your track is smaller. I'd say you will want something like a 185/60R14. (22.8 ") or 185/65R14 (23.5") The 185/60 might seem a little small, but I would start with that. I ran Bridestone Blizzak WS60 last year, but they no longer make them in my size, so I'm going to a very similar tire, the Michelin X-Ice Xi2. I sugest you do the same. The WS60 was used on almost all the sport 4 cars at my local track, and the ones who didn't run them were left in the dust.

    If the feature is slick and dry, try an asphalt type tire for the feature, and the michelin in the heats. When the track is wet, the tires are working "IN" the track, which means it needs to dig in to get traction. Once the track is dry, the tires are working "ON" the track, like an asphalt track, which means an asphalt setup. :) At least, thats what I do, and it works great for me. Instead of trying to run high up the track, in the wet track for the the feature, you can run the dry track down low, which means a shorter distance, which means faster times. Just stay on the dry, slick part of the track, and out of the mud with the asphalt tires, as they won't grip.
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    See previus post. I have no clue for wheel sizes. My track only allows stock wheels for make & model, with an optional RR safety rim with stock dimensions.
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    run 205/55/15 they will be about same height as 195/60/14 but will have alot more grip sidewalls short and strong so they dont roll in the corners try to find some directionals i had some of these and they were the best tires i every ran
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    Race boy ..... /\/\/\ what do you think about that?
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    nope, a 205/55R15 is still to tall for a 1/4 mile in my opinion. Need something shorter. At least thats what I think. Try a 205/50R15 if your are going to go with a 15.
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    on a 1/4 mile track with smi-banking I run 185/60/15s and in just hitn the rev limiter at the end of the straits
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    Yea but I don't want to hit the limiter.... Just under
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    Each track is different. You might not hit it. This is just a good starting point. There are 5 different 1/4 mile tracks (paved) that I've run and each one requires a different tire size. But starting with that size is better than guessing and not getting it right at all.
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    I can tell you that 205's are way to tall so you might try a 195 or a 185 depending on the length of ur strait's, im assuming your going to be running 2nd gear, if so that will for sure be a good starting point
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    205/55/15 is just slightly taller then a 185/60/15 ...but the 205 has shorter sidewalls if your allowed to run them i would try them or a 205/50/15 just depends on how your 1/4 mile track is i know at a big 1/4 the 205/55/15 are perfact i use to hit 7000 rpm right before i started into the turn
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    Thats how you want it to be. :)
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    sorry for the long wait my computer was down but thanks for alll the replies and i was kinda thinkin what racerboy was saying run a 185/60/14 and you think the blizzaks would be good but the track has new owners and they say no winter tires and idk how strict they are gonna be so what would be a good alternative to that i know you mentioned something about a michilin asphalt tire for the dry slick what kind of tire would that be? Thanks
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    We run Hoozier track tires (14") on a .439 asphault track. My 95 scort, manual, was 4500 Rpm going into the corners. Swapped in a 2.0 Spi from a 97 and a 5 speed from a 98 Zx2 ( 98/99's have a 4.10 Diff) Raised Rpm's to around 5300. Lots of pull.
    Check this out for tire sizes:
    http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp
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    Dude that site is Fing bad ass I was trying to figure (math ugh) that stuff out.... Thanks!!!

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