Discussion in '1st Gen 1981-1990 CVH' started by scortster, Nov 30, 2004.
I have an '88 1.9l w/ a cracked head. Where is the cheapest place to pick up a new/used head?
Ebay is usually the best bet for a good inexpensive cylinder head.
Will the head off of an 86 HO casting #RFE5EE-F4A work on my 87 HO with casting #RFE7EE-G7A. Do they use the same cams/lifters etc.
Yes, those heads can be intercanged.
Oh, as far as I know about skimming the head, you will notice on the bottom a couple half moon notched toward the front...you can skim those down to where they're flat with rest of the head (that is, the half moons are lower than the head surface). But, doing that will result in a pretty good bump in compression: think 10-11:1. As for high compression tests, Ford recommends nothing higher than 250 psi during a typical compression test, however, I have heard of them being tested to 300 static psi and not failing. Good luck on your shaving.
THIS IS OUTSTANDING.....just a few questions....how do you suggest we alter the timing?
will the merker VAM help?
or will a merker or turbocoupe tbird ecu help?
lets say, i adjust the timing, swap the cam, and replace my mani with the header...wikll this bring me close to GT performace....
and.......what of running this settup with an automatic tranni, lets say in a wagon?
will a head from a first gen 1.9 fit a second gen 1.9?
Absolutely, and a 3rd gen 2.0 as well. A CVH head will even fit a Zetec block with minor mods.
from your screen name, i am guessing you have a second gen, if so the first gen head will not have the proper timing belt pulley. you will also need to put a cam sensor in the head and plug where the distributor used to be. its not a whole lot of work, and it can be done.
But even the cam profiles between 1st gen CFI and 2nd gen SEFI are the same.
Just a ""Big Thanks"", only wish they would have put the casting #s on frt of block instead of behind :evil: --Bob
You have to want it badly enough.
Ok guys, I've had it in my head (the one on my shoulders) for a while that I'd like to turbo this car. 89LX with a 1.9 CFI, throttle body and manual trans. this thing runs absolutely awesome right now!!!! I also don't want to ruin that, my plan is to (if it's possible) swap on either a 1.6 head with the mpfi intake from a GT, or just use the 1.9 HO head and the mpfi intake from a GT, then get a merkur ECU, injectors, and VAM. I already did the HO header swap and it does seem a bit peppier. I figured I'd get all that ironed out and get it running as well or better than it does now, and then start the turbo aspect of the project, that way it's easier to track down why all of a sudden it isn't running well. any ideas or criticisms???????
If you go with a 1.9 GT head, get a late 88-90 head, as it has roller lifters (if you want that setup, as it does reduce friction). If you go with the 1.6, be happy with monstrous exhaust ports, although the intake could be opened up a bit, although they don't use roller lifters. However, if you had some extra money to throw around, maybe you could have the head machined for the roller keepers, and have the 1.6 cam reground for the lifters, as a 1.6 cam is taken out distributor end, and 1.9 cams are taken out front end. The 1.6 cam bearings are also stepped, so unless you had them rebored to take a different cam, I'd just suggest some machining for roller lifters and a good cam to match.
So my stock head off of my 1.9 HO is the best option for performance then?
yup it is
The guy I bought my GT from said that he thinks the previous owner had but a 1.6L head on it because it was "better". I will have to pull the casting number when I get home and check.
HI "rudedog", hi people!
I know this post is old, but i would like to know what happened with this proyect because i have an escort 90LX 1.9 and i wanna use the 1.9 HO head and the mpfi intake from a 89 GT, but i don't know how to make it works
can somebody help me please??
Actually I have swapped entire motor by one from a 89 GT, I need something else so that it works?
Better depends on the opinion. Mine stands that the 1.6 is no worse than the HO head for performance. Of course, I haven't tested both on a flow bench to compare results, but my guess is that the 1.6 won't flow much less (if at all) than the HO on the intake side, and will definitely flow more out the exhaust. Did you ever get the casting numbers?
An odd update: in digging around and checking out my two heads, I've come upon some very odd things this morning.
My first head is an E1EE-6090 A5C head, CAE2 extension. Port sizes are the same as the other E1 heads. I found a casting date on it. Apparently it was made November 21, 1980...possibly one of the oldest heads still in existence.
My second head came off a known '83 car, and it was supposedly the original head. I can attest the rest of the parts were of E3 designation. Here's where it gets fuzzy. It has an E1EE-6090 A5C designation, CAE3 extension. Ports are 30x33mm (ever so slightly larger than the first head) and, I found a casting date on it as well. September 6, 1984. WTF! How is an E1 head still being cast in '84 when the E3 head had been out? This really is a head-scratcher for me. I can understand if it wasn't the original head on the car it came from. But...why did Ford continue to make E1 heads in '84? The casting dates were both found on the intake side, front end of the head. They were in 3 circles, one for day, month, and year. Anyone got an idea of what's going on, 'cause I sure don't at this point. Rather disappointing since I thought it was an E3 head, although it explains why the port sizes look the same to me.
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