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I have an ´84 with a bad 1.6L and have found a great little 1.9L that I would like to use. I would like to stay with the Webber carb and 1.6L manifold if possible - can I just bolt this onto the 1.9L? What else do I need to look out for, or is there a reason that this swap is more trouble then it´s worth? Thanks.
 

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It would take some work to get the webber car b to work since the 1.9L is a fuel injected motor. There where very very few and rare 1.9L that where carbed. You best bet is to stick with what its got and the 1.6 manifold works I think. Ask james
 

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If the intake manifold works, then so should the carbs. You can retain the exact same fuel system from the fuel pumps forward (a huge bonus). Have you considered looking into fitting your 1.6L head onto the 1.9L block? You´d need to take the piston clearance and compression ratio into account. If it´s the 88hp 1.9L engine that I´m familiar with, then the head´s shrouded valves and sorry cam are no fun at all.

A side note:
IMHO, carbs are highly inferior to FI in terms of power, fuel consumption, and ease of use, but as long as you´re not trying to "upgrade" your car to carbs, like some folks do, you´re fine. Besides it´s usually cheaper to convert a mechanically metered fuel injected engine to aftermarket EFI than it is to convert the same engine to carbs. It much cheaper to convert stock EFI to aftermarket EFI than to carbs. (using new parts of course)
 

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Maybe I wasn´t that clear in explaining what I have now? Mine is a 1.6L carburated engine originaly. It has had a webber swapped onto the original carb intake manifold and that combo worked great on the original 1.6L. The car has never been fuel injected, and I have no interest in converting it over - I want to stick with the carb set-up.
What I realy need to know is if the 1.6L intake will bolt onto the 1.9L head, same port spacing, bolt spacing and such. Also, will the 1.6L distributor slide into the 1.9L without modifications, will the bellhousing be the same pattern, will the clutch splines/starter ring gear all be the same, etc?
What I would like to do is pull the 1.6L, swap the intake to the 1.9L, and drop it back in. What do I need to know to do this, can I do this, and what other parts wil need to be changed. Does anybody know the real answers? I realy don´t want to have to buy the 1.9 engine, tear this all apart and then find out "oh, hey, the bellhousing is 3 inches bigger and there is no way this will work".
I figured that this was the best Escort site on the web, I can´t be the first person that ever wanted to do this.............
 

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01-05-2003 at 07:40, sportscort93 wrote:
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Honestly, I have no clue. My knowledge is pretty much only about the 1.8s...and even that is only specs and whatnot. ;-)
 

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The intake manifold and distributor should all fit right onto a 1.9. Actually as far as I know, you can just take the 1.9 engine itself and bolt everything else from your 1.6 onto it. The only thing you would probably have to do would be adjust the carb so it gets a bit more fuel. BTW I assume you are talking about a 1.9 from pre-91, but either way it would still all bolt up. If it´s a later model 1.9 (91-96) then you would have to do a few more things but it will still work. Hope that helps a bit.
 

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Mike, THANK YOU for the info. That´s exactly what I needed to know! I guess I´ll just go ahead and snag the 1.9L.
 

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I´m not positive on the year of the 1.9L. It is either a ´89 or ´90. Is there a cut-off year that they won´t interchange?
 

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I think you should just be able to bolt your 1.6L head on the 1.9L block that way you don´t have to worry about the intake manifold and everything, I think some of the turbo guys are using 1.6L turbo heads on their but i´m not 100% sure.
 

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Anything up to a ´90 would be the easiest. A few things changed in ´91 so you´d have to do a little more work. It´s also true that you can stick the 1.6 head on the 1.9 block as well. The 1.6 has the largest exhaust ports of an cvh we ever had in the US so you might want to think about that if the 1.6 head is still good.
 

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03-05-2003 at 14:24, 91sleeper wrote:
The 1.6 has the largest exhaust ports of an cvh we ever had in the US so you might want to think about that if the 1.6 head is still good.
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Aren´t the intake ports smaller?

I´d look it up but it seems my CVH SOHC book is missing.

The reason I ask is because when my 1.9 head cracked I brought 2 to my engine builder to check. One happened to be a 1.6 head. It had D-shaped ports that IIRC were smaller. In any case, he said not to use it. Not that it wouldn´t work but not to use it.

I think I put it back in the basement. The 1.6L head is from the mid-80´s and the 1.9L heads we have are from 87 and up.

Diane
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[ This message was edited by: Diane on 03-05-2003 20:42 ]
 

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Actually I am not sure on the intake ports, but I just remember john smith posting pics of 1.9 compared to 1.6 exhaust ports and the 1.6 were much larger. IIRC he used the 1.6 head on that turbo engine he built. If someone that has both heads could compare them and post the info it would help everyone out ;-)
 

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John got his head from the UK IIRC so that may be a difference right there. I´ve been told by many with more knowledge than me that the best 1.9L head was from an 87, so maybe the 1.9L smallest valve deal is on the later 1.9´s
 

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I am sorry I didn't see this post earlier, I hop it's not too late. What you really should try to get a hold of is an 89-90 Scort GT engine. It is know as the HO. It has bigger valves all around than the 1st or 2nd gen LX 1.9's, and they are unshrouded. Not to mention the domed hemi pistons for a bit higher compression. As far as the intake goes all the research I've done tells me that it should fit onto the head of any 1st gen engine, as well as the distributor. The 2nd gen head is a little different on the intake side as far as water ports and stuff like that goes. Also if your 1.6 has a mechanical fuel pump, you will have to ditch it for an electric one. The 1.9 was never intended for Carb use and therefore has no accomodations for a mechanical fuel pump.
 
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