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is it worth it?...i read the dyno charts on thier websire and am wondering if anyone has tried it...any feedbacks will be appreciated....
 

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chips? to make the ECU think the air is cooler than it actually is so it dumps more fuel? not worth it, wastes gas, hurts engine components and cats...
 

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Don't be so quick to take a dump on chips. Even though I have never seen a "chip" for the escort that is something other than fooling the ECU into a false sensor reading, there may be chips out there.

If they modify the fuel map and ignition map, it may be a nice way to get a few extra ponies and improve the performance a little bit. I've never used one, I'm just saying that not all chips are worthless.
 

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i saw one company that programs the timing/fuel and i can't remember some more attributes to it..anyway ill see how much they charge and see if it works.....thanks for the input...
 

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if you find out about it, make sure to let the rest of us know :wink:
 

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There's a difference here in what you guys are saying.

Chips are just plug ins that trick the stock ECU on the sensor readings.

However, piggyback ECUs are different. A Hondata is a piggyback setup which allows you to program fuel/spark curves, among other things. Timing can be done with a set of cam gears.
 

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OMG.....

There are 3 different style's.

A real chip does'nt "trick" any thing. For exsample a superchip or a Diablo (does not work on 1.8's)plugs into the port on the ECU and takes control of the software. It reprograms the way it controls the motor. It advances timing as far as it can and still get by with pump gas. It run's a more aggressive A/F ratio. A regular chip is a bad idea with N20 or any kind of FI. There are "flip chips" for N20, one setting for advanced timing with out N20 and another for retarded timing for a power adder.
It can also reprogram rev limiters and auto shift's.

Piggy backs trick the air flow meter signal to run different size injectors.

POT's and Ebay resisters that get wired to the ECT and IAT to trick the PCM hardly do any thing at all.
 

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or you have chip reprogrammers...... which by the way do they make any for a 1.8L BP?
 

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The best route to go would be a Stand Alone Chip used with a Laptop :p would be hella sweet..but i wounder how much a system like that would cost...
 

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well, since we're all poor here, probably more than you're willing to borrow
 

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Electronikal said:
The best route to go would be a Stand Alone Chip used with a Laptop :p would be hella sweet..but i wounder how much a system like that would cost...
A stand alone is'nt really a "chip". It replaces the PCM all together. You take out your computer and wire the stand alone in. They run about $1100 for a one.
 

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OMG.....

There are 3 different style's.

A real chip does'nt "trick" any thing. For exsample a superchip or a Diablo (does not work on 1.8's)plugs into the port on the ECU and takes control of the software. It reprograms the way it controls the motor. It advances timing as far as it can and still get by with pump gas. It run's a more aggressive A/F ratio. A regular chip is a bad idea with N20 or any kind of FI. There are "flip chips" for N20, one setting for advanced timing with out N20 and another for retarded timing for a power adder.
It can also reprogram rev limiters and auto shift's.

Piggy backs trick the air flow meter signal to run different size injectors.

POT's and Ebay resisters that get wired to the ECT and IAT to trick the PCM hardly do any thing at all.
Any good piggy back setup doesn't trick anything, it does what your Diablo chip does.
 

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1) do they make a diablo chip for the GT's
2) where can i find one?
3) how much do they cost?
4) how hard is the installation?
 

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James92Scort said:
Jeffescortlx said:
OMG.....

There are 3 different style's.

A real chip does'nt "trick" any thing. For exsample a superchip or a Diablo (does not work on 1.8's)plugs into the port on the ECU and takes control of the software. It reprograms the way it controls the motor. It advances timing as far as it can and still get by with pump gas. It run's a more aggressive A/F ratio. A regular chip is a bad idea with N20 or any kind of FI. There are "flip chips" for N20, one setting for advanced timing with out N20 and another for retarded timing for a power adder.
It can also reprogram rev limiters and auto shift's.

Piggy backs trick the air flow meter signal to run different size injectors.

POT's and Ebay resisters that get wired to the ECT and IAT to trick the PCM hardly do any thing at all.
Any good piggy back setup doesn't trick anything, it does what your Diablo chip does.
I cant think of any "piggy backs" that take control of the soft ware. The term "piggy back" means to tap into and alter the signals reaching the PCM. If you know of any piggy backs that can change the stock computer software then show me. I dont really see how it's possible unless it can do it through the OBD2 port, but than it really would'nt be called a piggy back any more.
 

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The hondata is a piggy back and allows you to change/program basically any computer function. You're not changing the stock computer software, you're just gaining the ability to program the settings.
 
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