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Hello:

What is the exact difference between the stock struts and Tokico struts
in terms of dimensions and shape?

For example: when I see some pictures of Tokico struts on the web then they seem to have smaller perches?

Are they tailored to suit to some coilovers?


Thank you,


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The tokicos that they make for our cars have the same size perches as stock. The ones you see in pics may be for some other car and just to represent the basic look of their struts. You can still use coilovers on them anyway though, on the existing perch or even cut the perch off for lots of drop.
 

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Hello:

Since externally the Tokico does not differ from the stock
the please give me few arguments favoring Tokico versus
stock or other aftermarket struts?


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I bought the $160/set tokico shocks designed for the ZX2 S/R package and intended to fit coil-overs onto them.

The 2.75" inside diameter coil-overs I bought (WeaponR) will not fit over the caps on the tops of the shocks. You'll notice that Ground Control (2.5" inside diameter) lists two different part numbers that fit the Escort.. the 2nd one being for Tokico shocks. I'm not sure if the powder blue(HP) Tokicos you see in the pictures online are not the same as the 'S/R' tokicos (which are black and have the afore-mentioned cap pressed onto the top of the shock body).

You may be able to buy powder blue Tokico Premiums somewhere that do not have the caps.. but they will cost more than $160. I'm going to be selling my coil-over kit, my H&R springs should arrive any day now :D

What is the exact difference between the stock struts and Tokico struts in terms of dimensions and shape?
The S/R Tokicos have a piston rod that's about 12-15mm shorter so that you have better travel with shorter springs. They were designed to work with eibach sport springs.

Ohhhh.. just found a picture of the S/R struts (you can see the caps):


This is a generic picture used widely across the internet wherever Tokicos are sold:
 

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Rob said:
Hello:

Since externally the Tokico does not differ from the stock
the please give me few arguments favoring Tokico versus
stock or other aftermarket struts?

Rob.
They're stiffer.. and shorter. Don't use them with stock springs. If you want a stiffer shock for stock springs (or modest lowering springs), get the KYB GR2s.. I can reccomend those firsthand... they're same length as stock, and about 30% stiffer.. makes for a very nice 'german-like' ride. KYB is also one of the best shock manufacturers in terms of quality.. they'll last a long time.

Stock shocks are.. well.. soft n wallowy (despite an otherwise crisp suspension setup on the escort). Stock shocks will wear out quickly if you mount stiff springs over them.. as they'll overheat trying to tame the bounce. You'll get a more controlled ride, better grip and handling, and a more connected feeling at higher speeds when using a stiffer than stock shock setup. If you like the wallowing, buick-like, feel though.. don't change em.
 

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Beaverboy and guys:

Thank you very much for the detailed explanation.

You are right the generic picture many sites use
plus references to coilovers in the context of Tokico struts
are very confusing.

Thank you for the picture of the real Tokico struts for escort.



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The Tokico S/R struts aren't really stiffer than OE ones (they are minutely)
The do have a shorter piston so it won't bottom out the same on a lowered car as the OE ones would. Thats to prevent the smashing of the valving when you would be otherwise bottoming out

The Top cap can be popped off so that the coil-over sleeve will go onto the strut body. It is just pinched on and a hammer and a blunt chisel will pop it off (don't get any "smashy-smashy" ideas now :roll: )

Just so you know......The S/R's also have a larger piston rod which is typical of all 3rd gen Escorts. So you will need the from thrust/strut bearings from a 3rd gen (3rd gens are plastic/ZX2's are metal....but the bearing internals are the same)

Yes.....Tokico got the contract to make all of the Escort struts. But not all struts are made equal. Just because they say "Tokico" on them doesn't mean they are anything great (the S/R's are black ....like in the pic....with yellow "L" and "R" stickers on them)

Blah blah blah.....I'll stop talking now :wink:
 

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2nd Gen EGTs used MacPherson struts, which is the same strut used by Subaru, some Fords now, even Chevy's and a few other car companies. I bought KYB GR2 Gas Struts to replace them with along with some Suspension tech 1.5" lowering springs. Haven't had the chance to get them on yet because I have too much going on. (starting a second job and in the process of searching for an apartment) :D
 

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Skuce said:
The Top cap can be popped off so that the coil-over sleeve will go onto the strut body. It is just pinched on and a hammer and a blunt chisel will pop it off (don't get any "smashy-smashy" ideas now :roll: )
Where were you a month ago, skuce? :(

Now I hafta decide between the H&Rs and the WeaponRs..

You say the S/R struts are barely stiffer (if at all) than the stock struts? Bummer. :(
 

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Just so you know......The S/R's also have a larger piston rod which is typical of all 3rd gen Escorts. So you will need the from thrust/strut bearings from a 3rd gen (3rd gens are plastic/ZX2's are metal....but the bearing internals are the same)
I thought this was the case too... I found out last night that the rear shocks I removed from my car (which were original) were nearly identical in every way to the new Tokicos I installed on the rear. The only difference.. the original ones weren't gas charged.. and didn't say Tokico anywhere on them.

The stock bump stop fit over the rod just fine (same size), and the strut went together with my stock upper mount with ease.

I'm going to check out the fronts today, maybe the discrepancy lies in them.
 
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