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  1. Joey_Twowagons

    Joey_Twowagons FEOA Member

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    Considering how much financial cost is incurred when a hot water tank leaks, it's odd that they are made of steel that rusts out in ten years or so.

    It didn't used to be this way. Hot water tanks used to be made from bronze. I picked up a couple on the side of the road back when we used to have oversized trash and garbage day once a year (a wonderful flea market that sadly got shut down).
    So when the crappy modern tank in my basement bit the dust I replaced it with the bronze one. It is an "Everdur" brand, and had an old warranty card in it good for fifty years!
    It's now well onto its next fifty and presumably will last as long as the copper "pipe" in the house.

    In my case no harm was done by the old tank leaking, as the basement is an unfinished workshop junk storage area and flood water just drains out the low corner when it comes in.

    It's funny that the crappy modern tanks are accepted. You'd think insurance companies would push for stainless ones at least.
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    Until I had the water heater leak I didn't know there's an anode rod in the tank of water heaters that the water will eat at instead of eating at the tank but if the rod gets eat up then the water will start eating at the tank. When I replaced the water heater with a new one it had a small anode rod in it. I removed the one that came in it and replaced it with one about twice as long and a larger diameter that should last much longer. Next year will be 5 years since I put the new heater in and will probably remove the anode rod at that time and inspect it. If it's getting pretty eat up I'll replace it. I don't know this for a fact but I've been told some insurance companies have quit covering damage caused by a leaking water heater.
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    Did you have to tilt the water heater over to install the anode? I would think that at the very least you would need a pretty short water heater and/or a high ceiling to install one,
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    I installed the new anode before putting the water heater in. My water heater is in a separate closet of it's own that is just big enough for the water heater to fit in. Since I put an anode in it that is about 11" longer than the original I'll likely have to use a hole saw and cut about a 1 1/2" hole in the ceiling drywall for the extra length to go into when I change it but since it's in it's 0wn little closet no one else will know it's there. If the rod is eat up I could just bend it as I take it out and not worry with the hole but I'd have to buy a new rod that is made in sections and is flexible to put back in it. The anode in most units doesn't go the total depth of water heater but, mine does. All the damage to the house was such a mess I didn't want to go through that again. I also put the new heater in a drain pan and cut a hole in the floor with a pipe running underneath the house in case I ever have another leak. I did the same thing with the washing machine. If anyone needs to replace the anode in their water heater here's what I used. https://www.supplyhouse.com/Rheem-SP11526C-900-x-44-3-8-Magnesium-R-Tech-Anode-Rod The anode can be cut to whatever length you desire without hurting the effectiveness of the rod. I cut mine 41" long which nearly reached the bottom of the tank. The rod that came in my new heater was 30"x.70" diameter. By replacing it with one 41"x .90"diameter I more than doubled the capacity of the rod which means it should last much longer.
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    After careful consideration, ERIE has decided to lower personal and commercial auto rates in order to provide additional relief to our Customers. We estimate the total rate reduction impact to be approximately $200 million throughout the 12 states and District of Columbia where ERIE operates.
    While ERIE’s pricing philosophy has always centered on providing exceptional protection and service at the lowest possible cost, lowering rates during this challenging time is simply the right thing to do. Pending regulatory approval, rate changes will vary by state and will be based on individually purchased policies and coverage options. Once approved, premium adjustments will take effect at the time of renewal.


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    LoL... at least they didn't say "draws"...
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    Ive been to Taneytown. There was a JY a mile or so west of town that had some 2nd gen Escorts in it; and I bought an automatic transmission from them. That was years ago though.
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    Did it seem like a kind of "Pants optional" kind of place?
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    Never heard of a brass water heater. More like surprised that they haven't started making them out of plastic.

    Obligatory stainless steel water heater (probably just the shell):
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    :laugh:
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    It was about as conventional looking a town as ever I have seen.
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    In this weather, no. There is a polar vortex. It's actually cold outside.
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    Well it's not brass, it's bronze, which is even more expensive.
    I actually had two, but can you believe it, I seem to have misplaced one in the yard. I guess it grew little legs and walked away.
    I imagine one would cost a couple thousand dollars new if you could still get them.
    Oddly enough the interweb doesn't know about them. Hard to believe, but maybe they were a Canada only thing? I always see a few when I visit a scrap metal dealer though.

    Here's mine, it's a crappy picture because I just peeled back a bit of the fiberglass insulation off at the top.

    Bronze Everdur Hot Water Tank 001.JPG

    It's not just painted that colour, it really is bronze as the warranty card (and a magnet and file) proclaimed.
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    This guy died, TWICE:
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    There are those that choose to ignore the effort. There seem to be more of the busy-bodies that like to pretend everyone who isn't riding the sofa and bed 24 hours a day is in violation. These are the types that call the cops because a family wants to roll out to the park and toss with each other. They also complain about joggers zipping up/down the sidewalks. Plenty of time on their hands to be all up in other peoples' business who aren't affecting them; or anybody.
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