[dailordasailor]

getting ready to turbo for like 7psi daily driving and doing it right so its reliable etc. was looking at aem fic because was recommended by a friend but of course they dont have a escort one. do they have a general one that will work that can be tuned or something? Or is mega squirt a better choice? Or what other options? Price to gain ratio is prefffered lol but ready to spend some $$ to make it right

Thanks
Dale

 

[ciento44]

What car do you have?

 

[dailordasailor]

97 2.0 wagon. plan to dsm mani/turbo it with their t25. read that with a little work on the manifold itll bolt up and work great. also looking at buying another escort mani from junkyard and welding t3 flange to it but havnt seen anyhting about it on here

 

[madmatt2024]

Supposedly, the stock Escort manifold would put the turbo to low for the oil to drain properly which can mess up the turbo seals.

 

[dailordasailor]

but will the 2nd gen mani work then? like turbo placement wise? and the port locals on the 97 2.0 is same right? or was that a different model?

Anyone using any of the fuel management listed above? or what ae you using?

 

[Jeffescortlx]

If your only going to run 7psi you can just use a FMU.


A 2nd gen mani has a funky rounded elbow swivel flange to mate up with the cat. There is'nt a flat flange like the 3rg gen SPI mani.

 

[dailordasailor]

im sorry, meant 2nd gen dsm mani. and plan to make alot more then 7psi in time so going to do it right to begin with. just want to know what other turbo'd escorts are running

 

[Jeffescortlx]

oh right. I belive the 2nd gen DSM mani has been used and worked fine. But I think the 1st gen one is a bit easyer to fit. Less grindning to fit IIRC.

Most people just use a FMU. People that really want good engine managment to do more thing's wire up for stand alone.
I'm still just using a combination of FMU and 5th injectors.

 

[dailordasailor]

just an fmu and what else would i need for the 7 psi? im fine with saving $500 for the time being lol

 

[pumer]

fmu mayb some bigger injectors your stock fuel pump should be good for now and mayb u mite wana buy an upgraded clutch kit

 

[Jeffescortlx]

just an fmu and what else would i need for the 7 psi? im fine with saving $500 for the time being lol

A set of colder spark plugs and use high octane.

And yes, the stock clutch wont last long with boost.

 

[pumer]

if u ever deside on getting a boost controller and uping the boost i have a btm msd box with boost retard for sale 155 shipped lower 48 states and its universal

 

[dailordasailor]

pm me pumer about any more details on it. idk what it is exactly but having another motor built so yes boost will be raised, alot...

is stock fuel pump def good? I figure for higher boost ill def have to upgrade but want to start running some boost asap so less i have to buy the better but want safety as well on stock motor. What size injectors for an fmu set up at say 6/7psi on a t25 turbo. Whats size fmu? And how much colder spark plug would be suggested? Off chance on a specifice model/number?

Not trying to not search but this is most help ive received thus far from others without just alot of reading and car domain stalking lol

 

[Jeffescortlx]

A 12:1 FMU can support up to 7psi with stock injectors. The fuel pump will have it's pressure maxed out at this point.
Once you go standalone with bigger injectors the stock fuel pump can support a little over 200hp.

The spark plugs should be one step colder, same deal for using N20.

 

[dailordasailor]

is it adviseable to go bigger injectors though? i can get them semi cheap if need be and if better for it with the the 12:1 fmu then ill do it. or do i need the standalone to up injector size? because thought i saw you had bigger injectors with just the fmu but dont know what goes with puting in new/bigger injectors. just plug and play?

And greatly appreciate the help

 

[Jeffescortlx]

is it adviseable to go bigger injectors though? i can get them semi cheap if need be and if better for it with the the 12:1 fmu then ill do it. or do i need the standalone to up injector size? because thought i saw you had bigger injectors with just the fmu but dont know what goes with puting in new/bigger injectors. just plug and play?

Larger injectors are never plug and play. Sure you can bump up the size, but you'll run pig rich out of boost. That is why you need some kind of tuning, standalone or piggy back (dont advise) or use a adjustable FPR to correct the out-of-boost fuel amount.

If you did use larger injectors with a FMU, a 12:1 ratio will be too agressive. A 10:1 might be better depending on the size of the squirters.

Just save up your money for real tuning and injectors. In the mean time just slap on a 12:1 FMU and low boost it.

 

[dailordasailor]

sounds like a deal. 12:1 and 6psi it is...

how hard is it for first gen dsm mani to bolt up? saw in your car domain but not 100% on the pics

 

[Jeffescortlx]

how hard is it for first gen dsm mani to bolt up? saw in your car domain but not 100% on the pics

Some drilling, some grinding a custom made bracket for the low row of bolts and allen head bolts to mount it.

You'll spend more time on the down pipe then you will on any thing else.

 

[dailordasailor]

you by anychance have more pics of it close up? like does the bracket touch the motor or just the mani? how would it seal with the gasket? think im over thinking it but pics would be helpful if possible. if easier then a 2nd gen mani ill go 1st gen

 

[madmatt2024]

You need a standalone or a custom reprogram to run bigger injectors, otherwise it will run vary rich.