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speed sensor on the transmission = broken

Discussion in '2nd Gen 1991-1996 1.8L DOHC' started by GTScort, Oct 5, 2004.

  1. GTScort

    GTScort New Member

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    I broke it trying to pull it out to fill my transmission with ATF

    basically... half of it came out... it came out without the gear.... its basically impossible to fill my tranny now.

    i put as much as I could in with the axle out but im not sure if thats enough.

    how do I get the rest of that sensor out of my transmission? i basically have a small hole to work with. hopefully this makes sense to anyone who broke theirs

    any ideas?
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    I never broke one, i think mine leaks since ive had it out some many times! hah Anyways, I might have one laying around if you want it. As for getting the gear out it should just come out if you can see what your doing with so little space to work with. Let me know if you need one, ill send it asap if needed.
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    You cannot fill to the proper level without going through the speedo opening. Don't drive you car until you get this fixed and the level topped up properly.

    I've seen two or three other posts on this site about guys who had the nylon speedo gear stay lodged in the differential. In both cases, I think guys took their cars to a shop and it got ugly from there. Try searching under "speedo" or "speedometer" - you should find the threads.

    Fortunately, mine has never got stuck in there. You won't be able to get a pair of needle-nose in there. I'd suggest you're going to have to make a homemade tool, like a mini dentist's pick, to be able to get the gear out.

    Good luck...you're gonna need it.
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    You cannot fill to the proper level without going through the speedo opening. Don't drive you car until you get this fixed and the level topped up properly.

    I've seen two or three other posts on this site about guys who had the nylon speedo gear stay lodged in the differential. In both cases, I think guys took their cars to a shop and it got ugly from there. Try searching under "speedo" or "speedometer" - you should find the threads.

    Fortunately, mine has never got stuck in there. You won't be able to get a pair of needle-nose in there. I'd suggest you're going to have to make a homemade tool, like a mini dentist's pick, to be able to get the gear out.

    Good luck...you're gonna need it.
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    fuck... i'm guessing i'll need to make a hook type deal to stick down in there? i have no idea what the rest of it looks like to know what kind of tool to fabricate. would some sort of hook have something to grab onto to pull it out?

    i think the search function is broken right now :(
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    Yeah, my double post was the result of some weird transmission error and then I couldn't edit the double post either. I had the bunker gear on waiting for the flamethrowers, but nothing yet.

    I'll pull my speedo out and try to dream up dimensions for a tool that might be useful for you.
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    that would be awesome man, I'd really appreciate it.

    Unfortunately an hour and a half from home at school and my car is at home on jackstands so there isn't much I can do now.

    I plan on going home thursday to try and fix this problem and finish my wiring. this really concerns me... not being able to drive my new GTX because of a POS plastic speed sensor being lodged in my differential will not make my day.
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    actually, I think I may have enough in there.

    we jacked the car up as high as possible on the driver's side and filled it through the driver's side axle spot... i got almost a quart in there and if I had to guess... thats about how much I lost pulling the axles.

    it sucks... because i wanted fresh tranny fluid with my new engine but fuck it... i'm not gonna dick with that piece of shit plastic sensor

    mazda engineers can eat shit for that one... how hard would it be to make a fill hole and close it with a bolt? :roll:

    no lets make it hard as fuck to remove a cheap plastic piece... brilliant

    nonetheless, if you could let me know how I might be able to remove it... again I'd appreciate it. This transmission has 150k on it and I want to see it last awhile.

    thanks man
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    Okay, you are not totally shafted. Get yourself a pick set. they usually come in a set of four. find the one with the 90 degree bend. Take off everything you can to get good access to the sensor. Trust me you will need it. I am assuming that the only part in there is the gear, as this is what happened to me when I replaced the clutch in mine. Fire up your handy dandy propane torch and heat the pick cherry red. Quickly press the pick into the gear and give it about a quarter turn. Hold it there for a while then go smoke a cigarette and wait for everything to cool down. The pick should now be well secured into the guts of the gear. Remove the gear and get a new sensor.
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    This is what the speedometer gear assembly (with broken-off sensor) looks like:

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    if you can get a chisel on the flange, and get the whole thing turning, you will be able to pop it out.

    It's a PITA when it's in the car, which is why whenever I do a clutch or something, i make SURE to take it out as soon as I get the tranny out.

    if you've got to stick something inside it to get it out, then you've got to get a new one anyway.. I've tried screwing a screw into the center of it, and using a slide hammer to remove it, that didn't really do much except pull a little brass bushing out of it...

    your best bet (and this has been told to me by proffessionals as well as my own experience) is to get the gear assembly turning in the transmission, then work it up. a big vise-grip works well.


    --sarge
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    yeah sarge, thats the part thats still i there. all we had when we took the VSS out was the black plastic sensor portion.

    we did manage to get just about all the fluid back in there that we lost..so i think he's ok to drive it, just damn that stupid VSS..
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    A couple of us (birddog and myself) misunderstood...I thought that only the little nylon gear didn't come out. The hot pick idea won't work for your situation.

    Follow Sarge's advice - he's seen your situation before, obviously.
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    Yep, pics always clear things up. Time to improvise!!!
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    I have an extra sensor :D from when i changed my tranny, i had a fun time but i havent broken 2of2 that ive taken out. I just must have the touch 8)
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    I know this is a old thread. But I am in the same spot. My vss broke off inside. I got the top part out and the rod but Tue bottom half is inside still. Looks like the vss goes in a sleeve and the sleeve can come out. I will get pictures up soon. How did you end up getting yours out that broke?
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    I have successfully removed a broken vss by tapping the hole, threading in a threaded rod, and using a chunk of lead with a hole in it to make a slide hammer. I have also heard of people threading a axle nut onto the outside of it.

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