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Yesterday i got the back out on my 97lx while going around a right-handed sweeper that tightens. I was going about 55-60 mph. It's all because of that 1" quickor bar. It wasn't hanging way out there, but the back was definately out. it was really controllable, though. Just lifted the off the throttle a bit and it came right back in. No snap oversteer, nothing scary. I'm liking this bar more and more every day.
 

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I'm seriously contemplating getting a new suspension setup after I get the BMW headlights in.

Do you have an aftermarket suspension system?

I remember I was on this killer switchback camp road... newly paved, and just after a light rain. Anyway I was drifting turns like mad it was so much fun... really dangerous, but fun nonetheless.
 

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In my opinion, suspension mods are the most rewarding thing you can do on an escort, espsecially if you don't have the 1.8. right now the only mods on my car besides the quickor bar are 15" rota wheels with toyo proxes on them. I have a set of H&R springs and Tokico S/R struts, but those are still in the box until i get around to putting them on.

Is your car rusty underneath? i think i remember you posting a pic of your swaybar's rusted endlinks. I'd definately have all the importand suspension parts inspected and replaced if needed before getting a hotter setup. it sucks when stuff breaks, especially if it's expensive/important/could have been prevented.

The place i go to drive fast (besides sanctioned solo/autocross events) is something i found through sheer luck. It's a housing subdivision with only one entrance and no houses. They just built the roads and stopped construction. it has all kinds of off-camber corners, sweepers, 90-degree turns and elevation changes. best of all, it's out in cattle country, so no one is close enough to really complain about noise. We just take one slow pass to make sure nothing is in the road, sweep up glass and stuff if we need to and let it rip. It's defiantely safer than pushing it on public roads, and more fun since you aren't afraid to push it harder. I'm going to have some pictures to post soon, hopefully.

Do you have idea what kind of a suspension setup you want?
 

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What's just as much fun is when you get lift-throttle oversteer (because you make a ham-fisted steering input while lifting your right foot), and then you punch it and the back just steps back in line like nothing ever happened... can't do that w/ RWD :lol:

Get those H&Rs / Tokicos installed! You'll love em! Not too hard to install yourself. :D

It's interesting that while I have my 13" snow tires on the back (due to a flat tire) and my 16" HTRZ IIs on the front, the car noticeably leans more in a turn just because of the rear tires deflecting so much. The difference in sidewall stiffness is staggering. 8O (no pun intended)
 

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The rusty escort was my 91GT. It's my beater GT. Right now my sister has it for college and it is driven in the snow and basically has had a hard life. It's kinda sad, but...

anyway, I have a 1995 EGT and it's in really immaculate condition.

I'd llike to upgrade for the sole purpose of GOING FASTER. This would probably entail lowering the car maybe 1 to 3 inches. Maybe do some adjustments to camber and such, but I'd like a firm, responsive ride. I want it to feel like the car is on rails through turns. I'd like a quality strut that handles at high speeds. Have you ever driven a newer mercedes? It feels like you're driving 30mph even when you're crusing at 105mph. I'd like to get that same "stable" feel. I don't want the car to shake at all or any stupid siht like that.
 

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i haven't had the opportunity to try that lift throttle oversteer trick, but i'm sure i will soon.

yeah, sidewalls make a huge difference. I'm running on 50-series tires and my friend (who was in an '83 GTi with a 16v Ciorocco swap) was running 60-series tires. i outhandled him at every turn. His car is still fun, though. my brother got the inside rear tire to get light and smoke at the apex of a turn. it looked really cool from behind. once he gets his suspension upgrades finished it will be a real monster.
 

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hmm. sounds like you want a good progressive rate spring matched with nice struts and some swaybar(s). Basically the same kind of thing beaverboy and myself have. how stiff you want it decides what parts to buy.
3" is a big drop. you'd have to do something to increase travel i think. my brother put intrax springs (2") on his car and the back is great, but the front is all over the bumpstops. of course, it's a different car, too. but for a drop over 1.5" i'd do some research first to find out what else might need to be done.
 

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here's my current Autox Solo2 STS set-up

Mazda MX3 H&R Springs (Stiffer than Protege and EGT versions)
S/R Struts
ES Poly Bushings frt/rr
Upper strut bars frt/rr
Lower tie bars frt/rr
15x7 35mm w/205/50/15 Falken Azenis
Suspension Techniques Rear 22mm sway bar and poly bushings
Front sway bar poly bushings (stock 19mm bar)
1.0 -camber frt / 1.5 -camber rear
very small amount of front toe out, rear is at zero

works really well for a semi-street set-up. It is rough (especially after adding the ES bushings) but it is bearable. It handles like rails and is a total blast to drive. It will step out on demand, but it's a smooth step. It can snap out on you after getting behind on a 7 cone slalom though... :lol: and well, not to toot my our horn, but the lower tie bars are ones i had made (there was a GBuy, but i can make more) and they greatly add stability to the car. The front end comes alive with crisp turn-in and the rear helps curb the tendency for toeing out in the rear under hard cornering due to some flex. Rear toe out = BAD on our BG cars, very bad... 8O

Also, as you can see from the pic below in my sig, the H&R springs are still a little soft but it is still a stock front sway bar too....and thats at the most extreme of cornering. (was a good photographer :) ) So theres not too much body lean.

oh almost forgot, www.mazdaracer.com. i have a niffty little how-to for installing the S/R struts.

and, seems to me you should be ON the gas to come out of a drift in a FWD car. If you lifted at the wrong time, or heaven forbid, hit the brakes...whoops, round you go. So be carefull out there guys...take it to the track. I discovered a whole new car once i started going to track races regularly. I have yet so much more to learn, but you'll never truely know how well these cars are untill you've been able to run a few laps at 10/10ths. It's, dare i say, [whispering really low] better than sex.....ssshhhh, don't reapeat it! but it's one of the greatest feelings i've ever known :twisted: :twisted:
 
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