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Shakezilla's 98 "Black Betty" build. Updated

Discussion in 'Photo Forum' started by ShakeZilla19, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. ShakeZilla19

    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    I agree the plate is just off. Nice, thing is I can now mount it somewhere else. I can also mount any fog lamp I want. :)

    Not out of the question! something like this maybe?
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    Small update on the air dam/splitter. Seems to be holding up well. I added an additional set of brackets to prevent the dam from rattling on the splitter. Also, I've curbed it a few times. Those damned concrete parking blocks!! damage is minimal just chewed the front edge a little. As for mileage, I am currently at 330 miles on this tank. Typically, this is around the mileage I get when the low fuel light comes on. The cool shit is I still have a 1/4 of a tank according to the gauge!!!!

    So, estimating the amount of fuel left and impact on mileage...The gauge usually hits E and light comes on after I have used about 10.5 gallons. 10.5*0.25= 2.6 gallons until the light pops. 2.6 gallons * by past MPG (34) = 88.4 miles. This is without a speedo correction. My speedo reads 5% fast, so it over estimates mileage by 5%. Past MPG is really 32mpg. (330+88.4)(.95) = 397 miles(corrected) to the tank!!! This is mostly city driving with some periods of cruising at 45-50mph, air temp ranging from 40-60*F. 397/10.5 = 38mpg Estimated!! That is an increase of 6 mpg or a 19% increase in mileage.

    So, over the course of 10,000 miles I estimate that I can save about 50 gallons of fuel. I will reply back once I fill it back up to confirm these results.
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  3. chestypuller

    chestypuller making the wifes commuter better

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    now your peaking my intrest shakezilla. im gonna switch out the plugs on ours for this next tank and see if i can get better then the 32 mpg on last fill up.
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    How about that snow!

    Ok, filled it up today. Not as good as I hoped. Low fuel light came on at 387 miles. The highest per tank mileage I've seen... put in 10.4 gallons. Doing the math... It comes out to 35mpg. So an increase of 3mpg or 9%. Still A nice gain considering I'm driving in stop 'n' go and have not really changed driving habits.

    I did think up a possible issue with the snow fall today. If the snow fall gets deep enough or if I do not clean off the air dam/splitter after the car has sat during a snow fall. The cooling holes I drilled could get clogged with snow possibly leading to an overheating situation.
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    chestypuller making the wifes commuter better

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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    New tank of gas. Made 377.4 miles this tank filled 10.4 gallons. After speedo error. I made about 34.5 mpg. Mind you still city driving, cold, and some spirited driving.
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    How well is the Frost King Duct insulation at blocking noise?
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    It killed many rattles but car is still loud as hell. i dont have a carpet, which made things really loud when i removed it.
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    Maxwelhse FEOA Member

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    3M "Professional" undercoat it next summer. 2 cans made my S10 70% quieter and weighs about 3lbs.

    I say summer because it will stink like a new highway for about 3 weeks and you want to let that air out. After that it's like it never happened.
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    Thanks, nice thing about the duct insulation is no stink! and adds warmth during the winter.

    I did test the noise level with a little decibel app. I drove down the big interstate/highway nearby. The average volume with carpet out and no duct insulation was about 77 Db over a 15 min drive. After adding the duct insulation, to the doors, that number dropped to 74 Db average. Considering that the Db scale is logarithmic that is not bad. I wanna say that is about a 25% decrease in volume; though I can't tell by ear aside from reduction of rattles. I didn't gather enough data to make this statistically significant, which is why I'm hesitant to say. Also, I have no idea how much of a difference carpet makes, numerically, I just know it is significant. stock carpet has about a 1 inch layer of foam underneath; think some of my earlier pics show this.
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    But you can undercoat over it for twice the savings! ;)

    In the IASCA circuit a 3dB difference is widely acknowledged to be 1/2 as loud to human perception. It's the difference between 1 12" sub and 2 12" subs or the "cabin gain" of a hatchback/SUV vs subs in a trunk. 3db is a very noticeable accomplishment. It's also worth noting that the IASCA dB scale isn't the same as what most people talk about. It seems to be graded higher, so take that definition with a grain of salt. 74dB is still a "quiet" vacuum cleaner by most measures.

    However, in short/layman terms, that's a big difference.
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    Once I get to the interior I'm going to probably use the same product you used, Frost King, but I'm also thinking of adding a layer of Mass Loaded Vinyl with a layer of decoupling glued to the MLV. I helped a friend with a '64 Falcon Sprint sound deaden his car. We added a layer to the floor and firewall along with cutting inserts to hang behind the door panels. The MLV made a huge difference in cabin noise. We glued a product similar to the frost king onto his outer door skin and that also significantly reduced road noise. New door seals also made a difference. I'm gonna refer back to your post when I get to de-rattling the doors. I agree with you. Seems like every little clip and part on the door panel is prone to buzzing and rattling.

    John
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    i tryed undercoating on the floor yes it skinks bad it will ruff off unless you sand the hell out of the floor. later i ended up using wire bush on a drill removed all the undercoating. i found some stuff called KBS sealer paint bush it on drys hard. the carpet for the escort ant that heavy pull out all the sound dender . last i had car on scale with 2 12" 2 big amps with all ac power steering al kinda of body work tool big tool box in trunk i poped 2800 pounds look up the car weight says its 2404 . not sure how much the 97 - 01 weight is
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    Latest MPG numbers ~32 MPG. Mind you it is cold and I've been hogging the gas. The splitter/dam has attracted much attention from other drivers. Mainly Honda kids and diesel trucks. Everybody tries to race. :roflmao:

    Think I came up with a solution to the returnless fuel system on the 98+ Escorts. For those that do not know you cannot run the fuel pump wide open on a returnless rail. My plan is to cut up a stock engine harness and trick the stock ECU into running the pump like normal. I think if I allow the ECU to use the fuel pressure sensor and add some resistors to other inputs(ECT, TPS). The ECU will run the pump and hopefully maintain a constant fuel pressure. Going to avoid cutting up the car, as much as possible, to make switching between MS2 and stock as easy as swapping out the engine harness. Also, I am thinking of mounting the MS2 in the bay to minimize wiring. Going to build an insulated box for it.
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    image.jpg this stuff work great on the floor
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    twisted95 FEOA Donator

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    come in lot of different colors
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    OMG photo bucket nuked all my pics. They are gone forever.............:(
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    They shouldn't be gone, just the links don't work anymore unless you pay for their premium service. you can still log in and download your pictures, move them to another service, and edit the posts to reflect the new hosting service.
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    I tried and it doesn't seem to want to work. I might have to subscribe, pull down all the photos I want and then end the service.

    John
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    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    Yeah, you cant download them they are 0 kb pictures; I deleted them before I realized they where empty files. I deleted my account in rage soon after.... Luckily, I still have many of the early pics on facebook but the newer stuff is gone.

    I'll fix the links of what I have some time, but BB is gone so new content will not be posted here.

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