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Seatbelt Swap

Discussion in '1st Gen 1981-1990 CVH' started by Wingnut, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Wingnut

    Wingnut Guest

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    My 89 sedan had power shoulder restraints and both of them took a crap. I'd like to throw in manual seat belts from a 85 Tempo. I'm concerned that because the Tempo is only a 2 door and the seat belt re-tractor is about half way up the side that they're not compatible.
    I live in Laramie Wyoming and the salvage yard is sparse for parts so picken's are slim.
    Anyone else had this problem? I could use some advice.
    Thanks!
  2. UnexplodedCow

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    Been there, done that. I swapped in 2-door '86 Tempo units. You'll have to make a couple minor mods to have them work properly: bend the locator tab (keeps them from pivoting when installing) 180, and then make a small notch in the Escort to accomodate that tab. And then you'll have to either modify or remove the stock B pillar trim pieces because they simply won't work with the shoulder pivots. No, Tempo pieces won't fit, either. You'd need the entire trim from a manual belted Escort. The mounting holes are already in place. I ended up removing my central seatbelt piece, too.

    Keep in mind you can remove the shoulder belts, and keep only the lap belts...this would not be illegal as far as I'm aware.
  3. VashSpiegel

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    Can't you just install it in the regular spot, loose the shoulder pulley, and mount the other end to the proximate area? This way you don't have to replace much and it will hug the inside of the car more so it doesn't obstruct getting in the back seat as much.
  4. UnexplodedCow

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    Nope. The reel the belt sits in is spring-loaded, and has an actual mechanism. The entire box piece is kind of large; much larger than the shoulder pulley. The actual lock mechanism is triggered by a bob weight. When the weight goes off-center, the seatbelt locks, and hard. The problem with mounting it at your shoulders would be two-fold; it would be in the way, and not operate properly, or be safe. By that point you'd be better off with a manual adjust belt.

    You can't put the reel box in the center console area for the same reason...it has to be upright. I'll try and take some pictures tonight and load them in a bit.

    Here are the said pics:

    1. This is the shoulder mount. Notice the threaded hole further up. Both of these holes were used for mounting the auto seatbelt rail to the car.

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    2. This is the bottom mount. Despite the picture, it is upright in the car. Notice the horizontal slit nearby; that's where an original escort reel locator tab should go. The only reason I had to make a slit was due to using Tempo reels. The spot below that is where the reel actually sat; housed in a translucent plastic cup. I used one of the auto-seat belt reel mount spots to bolt the free end of the manual seatbelt.

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    3. This is the whole shebang...simple, and it works really, well.

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    Hope this helps clarify.
  5. NeckDelight

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    So I cannot view any of your pictures. But my driver's seat belt intermittently stays in the open position(belt towards the dash). Once I find time I am going to further troubleshoot this issue I'm hoping it's either in the switch or the ground maybe but I doubt I'm that lucky.
    Any chance you know weather it's wired in the switch thingies in the door jam or is that just for the some light. I'm going to take a look at my chiltons when I get home as well
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  6. ricksgt

    ricksgt MY 1989 Ford Escort Terlingua GT .

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    Hey ,that's what mine did ,, when the belt striped out and would not move anymore ,,if the motor is still good ,,all you need is another track belt ,but you will have to take out the old track setup to see first , to change the track belt , just remove the motor drive off the track setup - ( see pictures in my thread ) - and slide out the belt inside the track , you will have to remove the end cap part over the door at the end ,over the dash,, two screws and ,,then remover the belt from that in , not the motor end ,,its a job , but you can do it :thumbsup:. I have another belt I can sale you if yours is striped out . $20.00 plus shipping to your address :D. I will post picture of it here soon . :thumbsup:
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  7. ricksgt

    ricksgt MY 1989 Ford Escort Terlingua GT .

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    Ok,, here are some pictures of the seat belt track ( belt only ) I have .
    YES I rolled it up and put some black plastic pull ties on it , the belt is like over 6 feet long ,so this is the best way to store it or ship / mail it to someone . :thumbsup:.

    let me know if you need it . ;)
  8. NeckDelight

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    Welp I feel mine might hopefully be potentially a ground issue? Cause it intermittently stops then when im going down the road it will all of the sudden comes back over my shoulder. Then it works fine for a while. The belt track or whatever could be stripped but I'm not 100% Sold on it yet. I haven't taken the door panel off yet either is that where the ground is for it is. I've been working crazy hours and holidays mixed in there makes it hard to find out Scort time. But I will tell you it works long enough to forget about how annoying it is when it doesn't retract ha.
  9. Joey_Twowagons

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    I would try to get a set of manual belts and associated trim pieces from a Canadian Escort.

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