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Hi all,

The rumors are that my favorite Radio Personalities, Opie and Anthony, are coming back in October to Satellite. Will it be Sirius or XM...nobody knows. I bought a Pioneer headunit which is XM ready but also has an Aux in just in case.

In case I do have to put in another display just for the Sirius Control unit, where is the best mounting location? Unfortunately, the prime real estate next to my defroster switch is taken by my cell phone mount. Any other ideas????

I also heard rumors that there will someday soon be a universal tuner box that will let me get Sirius on my XM-ready head unit. Can anyone confirm this?
 

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I have been thinking about the satellitet radio.... I HATE commercials!!!


I quit watching TV a few years ago because of commercials!!!


If I get a receiver I want one that can leave the car too....



:evil: commercials :evil:

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Good point, zzyzzx. However, before this system, I had a Rampage POS. I bought it for the fact that it had a CD player and was about $40. But, it sounded like garbage and also AM didn't work. Since I live in Jersey, I need traffic reports on AM real bad. So, I upgraded.

Figured I'd get satellite at the same time.
 

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Personally I can't see myself PAYING for radio. :\ On the other hand if it's cheap and commercial free, maybe. I don't need traffic reports so I just use my CD changer for music and all... :\
 

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i have siuris radio, i work for dish network, and they have teamed up so i got a great deal on it, and i love it!!!!! i couldnt live without it!

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Update...

So we got word a couple of weeks ago that they are indeed coming back and coming to XM. I gambled right!

Bought me a Pioneer XM Tuner box GEX-FM903XM off ebay for around $70. Gonna hook it up tomorrow and check it out.

I want to mount the box under the driver seat and run the wires from there. Anyone know if there is a power supply down there? Also, are there screw holes to mount the box? Haven't nosed around down there.

Thanks for the advice. You guys really rock.
 

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How big is the tuner box?

I'd be hesitant to put it on the floor under the seat. Might see too much water, dirt, salt, etc in the winter for the wiring and/or the tuner. My mounting hardware for my seats is so rotten it's unrecognizable. I think you guys in the Garden State get something close to a winter.

Would you consider sacrificing space in your glove box, if it fits?
 

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Oh man, good point. I didn't even think of that! Yeah, winters have been bad lately and I do get lots of salt and snow.

The box is about 12 x 4 x 1 inches. That's 30.5 x 10.1 x 2.54 cm for you metrics out there. No way it's gonna fit in the glove box.

Where have people mounted their stereo amps traditionally? That's probably where this could go.
 

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My amp in hanging under my rear deak panel, powering the 6.5' speakers in the deck. All next to each other and out oe the way. (I just pulled off the deck cover and bolted it under with a screw and nut).


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I install Sirius all day long, i like the no commercials, but i really like the no censorship, you hear the songs as they are meant.

Not sure about the commercial/retail side, but i install Sirius in the Cadillac Escalades (which come equipped with XM) I just unplug the XM and install the Siruis unit. There is a special harness, but thats it and the antenna. It runs off the factory radio even, funny cause it still displays XM, but it's a Sirus stream you hear :)

The optimal place to mount it would be a place where the antenna cable has the longest run. With the antenna cable run as long as it can be, you'll get the best reception.

Can't comment on which is better, never listened to XM, but i do hear that XM has more repeater antennas than Sirius, but i've never had a problem with Sirius reception.

The rear deck panel is where your rear speakers are. It's the carpets panel thats covers the metal. Also known as a package shelf...dunno why or who'd put packages back there though...lol
 

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Oh that carboard-looking thing that covers up the spare tire? It would get totally destroyed back there.

What about under the seat but encased in some kind of plastic? It's just a box after all and I never have to mess with it.

Is there power under my seat? I saw wires but I'm not sure if they're needed or not. I don;t have power seats.
 

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no not that part, when you look into the back window, where the 3rd brake light would be, thats the rear deck. where the rear seats rest up against. If you where sitting in the rear seat and you stretched your arms behind your head to get comfy and sit back...your hands would be on the rear deck.

No, there most likely is not power under the seat, or atleast not a recommended power source. You'll find power at the rear of the fuse box NOT a empty fuse pin, but an actual wire, a real thick one. Or you can tap into the real thick main ignition loom wires, those run out of the actual ignition switch (where you put your key in) and run down the collom to the fuse box and elsewhere.
 

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ah crap, wait a sec, you have a hatchback.... in that case the rear deck is the rear hatch cover. Technically, you don't have a rear deck, just a hatch cover. But that may not be a good place, as it moves up and down with the hatch and it's just a cardboard type material.

Might i suggest mounting it to a rear seat back or behind a rear trunk plastic panel.

A plastic bag will help protect it from water and such, but it will not let the unit breathe and it'll heat up too much and may fail prematurely, or go into thermal shutdown.
 

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Good point about the plastic bag, didn't think about overheating! you probably just saved me a bunch of money, thanks!

Want to mount it also out of sight... I think it might actually fit in the glove box. Is there actually any room BEHIND the glove box?
 

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If your thinking about near the back of the car or that, you could always mount it on the back of the seat - I think, I'm not familiar with this satellite stuff, but I know that's what a lot of people that I know did with their amps, I could also be completly wrong about mounting it there, but it could be raised off the ground (safe from water), and out of sight (unless you drop your seat down)!
 
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i'd like to get xm also, need to get the radio first. but is there any xm antenna like those of a v dub that would look sick coming off the back of my egt. any info would be great.
 

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I finally figured it all out!!!

Here's my XM Radio setup. This is lengthy...

I have the 96 escort LX. It originally came with a stock amp in it. I don't know if this is tied to the fact that it had what Ford called "Premium Audio".

The stock amp only works with the stock Ford head unit. When I changed that for my Pioneer head unit, the amp became useless metal sitting there. It is underneath the stereo head unit. No, not the blue box, that's the airbag control. It's under the blue box!

So, I took out the stock amp. Lo and behold, I found that the stock amp also uses a special extension cord to make it work. I took this apart and spliced into it the power supply needed for the XM Tuner Box (Pioneer GEX-FM903XM). Doing this meant I didn't have to cut any vehicle wires, I just plugged it in between the stereo's power connection and both worked!

I hid the box where the Amp used to be. There is plenty of room down there. This is under the plastic console piece that makes up your cupholders. The fit was so tight that I didn't even bother screwing anything into place.

Plugged the wires in and tucked them into the console. In my setup, the head unit controls the tuner box via a special "IP-BUS" Cable. The antenna wire runs from the back of the tuner box, under the front passenger side carpeting, under the passenger side doorstep(?) panel, next to the back seat, and into my hatchback trunk.

The antenna has a magnetic mount. When I want to use it, I open the hatchback, take out the antenna, stick it to my roof, and close the hatch. Yes, I am slamming the wire in the hatchback, but It looks pretty tough to me and the insulation looks soft enough.

And...it works beautifully. I love my XM so much, I don't think I'll ever go back to broadcast. You guys have gotta get this, the sound is magnificent I swear. All true audiophiles will love it.

Any questions on the setup?
 
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