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Aite gurus! I have a 94 2dr (3dr) LX and I need new speakers....i think i cracked them..either way the stock suck! What size is the best to put in.. WITHOUT drilling holes in the speakers nor the car (basically plug n/ play)? Thanks guys...
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5x7´s or 6x8´s, if you really want good sound move them to the hatch cover the stock position sucks there is no where for the sound to go.
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MadBrad
If you get a pair of 5x7s then they´ll fit in the stock screw holes without any mods. The problem with the cavity under them is one side is a plastic interior panel and the other side is a steel wheelwell and a fender. The top of the shock tower is in there too. The speakers need a sealed box to work right. I got a pair that had tweeters that protrude through the grille, so I cut a hole in the grille for that. I lined the cavity with spray on tar and pink fiberglass. this almost sealed the "box" The fiberglass makes the sound waves think the box is bigger. I put capacitors on the speakers to take the bass out so it does not need a big cavity. As long as you don´t feed too much power there´s no distortion. Make sure the speaker´s gasket is sealed against the grille piece. You might need to cut down the screw towers to achieve this. :p
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I hear 4 inchers will work? Anybody hear the same? If so, does the sound suck? and is it just plug and lpay, or will i have to do some mods? Thanks guys
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J
4" work in the fronts...you´ll just have to get a piece of metal strapping to keep the speaker on teh door itself. I have 4" clarions in my front doors and although I have my system faded to the rear to protect them from being blown, they do sound pretty good when turned up.
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My question is..do they ONLY work in the front...IF i wanted to...theoretically..could they be used in the back no hassle, good quality sound...? thanks
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also keep in mind that different brands will have different mounts. i replaced my fronts with same-size kenwoods (6½) but only 2 screws would fit. for the rear, i went up a size from stock to 5x7 (i think stock are smaller, they look smaller) rockfords, and again, only a couple screws fit in. the rears are much easier to mod-mount though, plastic is really easy to drill through.
in both cases, the sound is exponentially better than the stockers. i´m weary about putting the rears into the hatch cover though, i think my sub would distort them more than having them in the stock placement.
good luck with whatever ya go for though! :-]
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You could put 4" in the back but again you´d have to fabricate some sort of fastening bracket because I´m sure only one screw will fit. I don´t see why you´d want 4" speakers in the rear anyway, I doubt you could really hear it.
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MadBrad
If you use 4" you need to make a wood piece to fill the rest of the hole. In effect, a 5x7 to 4" adapter. You must never allow the air on the back of the speaker to be in the same room as the air in the front of the speaker. The speaker wont work like that because the front and rear sound waves cancel each other out. To illustrate, connect a speaker to music and hold it up and listen to it. Then make a relatively sealed box out of a shoebox, cut a hole to mount the speaker in it, hold the speaker tight in the hole, then listen to that. You´ll hear a HUGE difference. :p
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03-04-2003 at 22:27, MadBrad wrote:
Then make a relatively sealed box out of a shoebox, cut a hole to mount the speaker in it, hold the speaker tight in the hole, then listen to that. You´ll hear a HUGE difference. :p
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don´t go through the effort! use a kleenex box! hole is already cut to a *cough near* perfect 5x7 shape! :-] ;-)

lol good ol´ ghetto speaker boxes
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MadBrad
That´s true, Jugg, I did think of a kleenex box but I was thinking of his 4" round speakers.
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03-04-2003 at 20:57, Juggernaut wrote:
i´m weary about putting the rears into the hatch cover though, i think my sub would distort them more than having them in the stock placement.
good luck with whatever ya go for though! :-]
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Nope does not distort i had a 1000 watt mtx and they sounded 100 times better than that crappy stock place, in the stock location the sound goes straight into the pillar it is a horrible place to put a speaker, and it is a lot easier to balance the sound, not to mention all of the sound bounces off of the rear window. espically if you have the tweaters that can rotate 360 degrees like mine can.
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03-04-2003 at 22:45, MadBrad wrote:
That´s true, Jugg, I did think of a kleenex box but I was thinking of his 4" round speakers.
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ah, well in that case, use the kleenex box still, but just tape up the open parts. or leave them and it´ll be naturally ported! :-]
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lol jug, god bless the world of ghetto engineering :-]
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Okay....so lets confirm:

Without any modification to my car, 5x7´s or 6" speakers WILL fit in my rear (2dr 94LX)? Right???
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J
highly likely, but with some you may need to drill 1 hole through the plastic (omg how hard izzat!) cuz the mounting may not be exact, t´was the case with my rockford 5x7´s, but other than that they fit good
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Thanks doode.....
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Revvitupegt
doesnt anyone make decent plate mount speakers anymore?
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So...

I guess the original designated spaced for the rear speaker in a LX wagon escort still sucks ? right?
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23-04-2003 at 18:12, Revvitupegt wrote:
doesnt anyone make decent plate mount speakers anymore?
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I like these :-]

Clarion SRC5794
5"x7" / 6"x8" Plate Speakers

  • 5" metal-coated, mica-injected polypropylene woofer with rubber surround
  • 1/2" PEI Gyro pivoting dome tweeter
  • fits 5"x7" or 6"x8" factory openings
  • sensitivity 85 dB
  • frequency response 40-25,000 Hz
  • recommended power range 2-35 watts RMS
  • peak power handling 130 watts
  • top-mount depth 1-7/8"
  • 1-year warranty
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