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rear drum to disk breaks

Discussion in 'Wheels/Tires/Brakes' started by chadgore, Sep 14, 2003.

  1. zzyzzx

    zzyzzx FEOA Member

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    So you are telling me that the back disc brakes are the same for 1991-1996 Escorts, where as the front brakes changed at least once. Correct?
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    The front brakes on most LX's started out being smaller, then got standardized to a larger size sometime around 1994 i think. The GT has the same size from 1991 through 96. If your LX came with 13" rims, then you have the smaller size. If you have 14" or bigger rims, and your front calipers are stamped with "14 22V" then you have the larger ones.

    Rear discs were ONLY offered on the 91-96 GT, and are all the same size.


    --sarge
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    Tracer LTS and Escort LX-E had rear disks too..If it ahs the 1.8L DOHC it had rear disk.

    John
  4. tokstad

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    I've got a 97LX.

    I was thinking of upgrading my brakes. Initially I was just going to buy new pads and front cross drilled rotors....

    Then I read this post. The GT 91-96 has 4 wheel disc brakes. Are the fronts the same size as the ones I have now? If I find one at a yard what will I need to I pull, will the stuff even fit?

    -Calipers
    -rear spindle
    -ebrake cable (just the cable right not the handle etc)
    -brake lines
    -rotors (if their not shot)
    ?????
  5. tokstad

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    Will I need:
    10 1/4 in front (Is this the same as the 91-96GT?)

    Rear rotors from a 91-96 GT (what size are these)
  6. escortlx96

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    You need the spindles,calipers and ebrake cables.
  7. tokstad

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    I just checked and my fronts are 10.25 or so. So I'm assuming these are the same as the ones on the front of the GT so I don't need to change those. I'm going to try and get out to the J/Y tomorrow and grab spindles, rotors, calipers, hoses and ebrake cables..... It's a direct bold on right.

    -Unbolt old spindles / hoses
    -Bolt on new spindles rotors and calipers
    -Replace ebrake cable... Does it need to be shortened or anything or will it hook right up to my existing handle (97 LX)

    Anything else?
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    I just had the Ford Dealer do my 93 wagon... with all new parts, brake lines, and parking cables. $1k (not including Alignment).
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    the ebrake cables should bolt right up to your handle.
  10. tokstad

    tokstad FEOA Member

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    1K!!!!! That's pretty steep. I bet I can pull junk yard parts for 20-30 bucks and can have the whole thing in in a couple hours..... Seems a little steep for me.
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    that depends on how well you want to rely on junkyard parts, personally i woul rather buy everything new, so i wont have problems down the road....except for the non-wear parts like the spindles, and control arms and track bars...but i wouldnt have taken it to a dealership, 1k is a little steep, but remember dealers charge like $70/hr...plus parts...i am gonna do the swap here soon too, im gonna get all new calipers, cross-drilled and slotted rotors front and back, i already have the Steel braided brake lines, and while i am doing taht i'm gonna remove the cross-member and control arms, and have them sandblasted and power coated and get my ES bushing installed...but needless to say this should be a long write up when i get done...lol...

    Anomalous
  12. martinarcher

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    cool man - take lots of good pics!
  13. Anomalous

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    yea, i plan on it, im emailed merritmotor sports on whats going on with his control arms, cause i'd rather use those, unless he was pulling our leg....i might just have to stick with the factory ones...
  14. tokstad

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    So the escort is out of commision for a few more days. I tried to do the swap last night. I pulled the part recommended in this forum out of a junkyard off of a 93 GT.

    Unfortunately I grabbed what seems to be two passenger side calipers :cry:

    The ebrake connection is different on the two.

    I also didn't grab any of the control arms. It seems that the drum spindle on a 97 Lx(my car) is a "little" different than the GT Disc spindle. The lower spindle bold is about 1" longer on the disc brake cars. I had to create a 1" spacer to make the control arms line up correctly.

    Also it seems that the ebrake cable (when moundet in it's braket) interferes with the suspension bar that connects the spindle to the frame.

    So I think that the additional parts I should have grabbed would have been the rear lower connecting rod and the suspension bar that connects the spindle to the frame.

    So as of now the car won't drive as the pedal is softer than butter and there appears to be a mystery leak in the system. Also I need to get a new drivers side caliper since I picked up the wrong one :roll:

    If you plan on doing this swap give yourself a lot of time. So far I've got about 7 hours in the swap.


    UPDATE: I just dumped 6 more hours into it putting on and painting the new calipers. Trying to make the ebrake work took another 4 of the 6 hours. I'm still in the process but am now fabricating custom brackets as the OEM ones won't work with 97 frame/spindle bars.......

    I should have brackets made by tonight and have the thing running again in a day or two.....
  15. Wakey

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    so basically from what i get out of it

    MX3
    Protege 1.8L
    Miata ( MX5 )
    Scort GT
    LST

    all them "kits" will do ???
    can anyone plz give me a defenet answer on that one, GT's are really rare around JYs here.

    i need to make this convertion perty fast since both my rear bearings are shot and i need to change my rear suspention A-S-A-F***en-P

    thanks for the answer

    PM me if possible
  16. billzie

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    The following are the only models with the rear brake swap:
    Escort GT 91-96
    Escort LX-e 91-92
    Tracer LTS 91-96
    Protege LX 90-94

    MX3 has the same front chassis but the rear is different, the rotos and pads are the same but the spindles and calipers are different; the rotors and pads should be replaced so this rules out the MX3.

    Miata...Not even close, not by a looooong shot.

    HTH, Bill.
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    The Escort Wagon 97-02 also has the rear disk setup. I pulled some of the parts from one.
  18. Wakey

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    how the hec do you quote???

    >>>>>>>>
    From: billzie
    To: Wakey
    Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:14 pm
    Subject: rear brake swap Quote message
    The following are the only models with the rear brake swap:
    Escort GT 91-96
    Escort LX-e 91-92
    Tracer LTS 91-96
    Protege LX 90-94

    MX3 has the same front chassis but the rear is different, the rotos and pads are the same but the spindles and calipers are different; the rotors and pads should be replaced so this rules out the MX3.

    Miata...Not even close, not by a looooong shot.

    HTH, Bill.
    >>>>>>>>
  19. billzie

    billzie FEOA Member

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    By using the QUOTE button, upper R side of each reply.
    Bill.
  20. Wakey

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    ok .. i always use quik reply

    thanks

    i'm looken for my parts now

    thanks to everybody

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