Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by PTMD, Apr 27, 2007.
Brad, you are a people too!
speaking of other peoples, lets have Ahmadinejad come be president because he has that outside looking in prospective!
anyone ever read "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder", thought it was a pretty good read.
"You want to be free (liberalism)? You must be insane.
We weren't talking about presidents we were talking about voters. We werent saying anything about our enemies (strawman) either, I was talking about unbiased outsiders that are concerned. And sure let's bring in a straw man argument like that. Using that straw man point you could say Kim Jong Il should be the new Jesus since if he leads N. Korea so well then he can lead the Christian world.
Yeah the right wing hacks did that as a retaliation to "A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity". http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,1 ... 46,00.html
It's typical of right wing hackery though. "The desire for Freedom aka Liberalism, is a mental disorder", because they don't want you to be free. They want to own you for the rest of your life as a serf in this Economic Feudalism they misname capitalism. "You want to be free? You must be insane." That's basically what they are saying amounts to.
BTW as some homework find out why all your personal information like credit cards and Birth Certificates are written in CAPITAL LETTERS. As a part time tax accountant I'll tell you it aint for clarity. It will raise some eyebrows for you.
I guess according to those loons the founding fathers were disordered mentally since they were liberals and acting in the name of liberalism.
To put it in better perspective here's the definition of Fascism.
Sounds a lot like what we've experienced in the past 6 years doesn't it?
so have some unbiased nobody come tell us what to do, even better.
and your also saying that liberalism hasn't changed since the founding fathers? interesting.
"so have some unbiased nobody come tell us what to do, even better."
So you'd rather have those who are biased tell us what to do. hmm
Was there anything about telling anyone what to do? I said "see things the way they are." Seems like you're into this telling others what to do.
"and your also saying that liberalism hasn't changed since the founding fathers? interesting."
Not that I can see. It's still "That which befits a free man" by definition isn't it? Freedom to do with our own lives in peace and do with our own bodies what we please. Freedom to live unowned and uncontrolled by others. Freedom to live from being spied on, audited, coerced, controlled by the government or other organizations. Freedom from terrorist attacks, wars and invasions that the government provokes with our tax dollars. Guaranteeing the freedoms granted by our constitution. Freedom from those who wish to take those away aka conservatives. Individual freedoms and liberties. During the founding fathers' time the conservatives were the monarchies, land owning aristocracy and Clergy. Today they are the corporations, land and capital owning aristocracy and the Clergy. Nope hasn't changed.
Freedom isn't free.
Think on that for a while.
If you are not Part of the Moral Majority, a minority, or wealthy, our
government doesn't give a hoot about you.
Your vote counts.
To you, maybe. Look at the games Jeb played for Double-U
in Florida. Then the Popular vote doesn't count for jack if the
Electorial vote goes the other way. So voting is like shaving
your pubes to impress that girl at work: If no one knows or
cares your just fooling yourself.
The government does what is best for them. The only way they
will give a hoot in He11 about the common people is if we ALL
just get up one morning and start moving toward Washington D.C.
EVERYONE who can walk, drive or ride a bicycle moves in mass
toward "Their" capitol. No chanting, no signs, just a nice steady
movement toward them.
I bet no more that 100,000 people would have to gather around
the White House and Capitol building before they started calling
mommies to bring them clean shorts. Especially knowing a
couple of 100 million more people were on the way.
But we, the American people are too busy zoning in front of
the idiot eye, playing on our puters, and fighting to keep
home and hearth together to DO anything!
WTF? Of course it's free otherwise it wouldn't be freedom would it???
That's what the meaning of Freedom IS.
The reason why conservatives like to say, "Freedom isn't free" because they only want the rich to have it and want the rest to pay for it. That way it isn't freedom is it? Sounds like something a King or emperor would say.
Think on that for a while.
Mostly true. If you aren't a corporation paying for votes then they don't care.
Your vote counts. This is why they try to discourage people from voting.
Uhm When the international media recounted the votes in Florida Gore won. http://www.guardian.co.uk/international ... 64,00.html
These past 6 years have been a coup. I'd love to say "classic coup" because it sounds good. Conservatives love that stuff. But there was nothing classic about it. It was slow moving.
Errr no they do what is best for their corporate sponsors.
I don't see political marches having any effect anymore. Why should it when the conservatives know they can just use the police or national guard to shoot them all down? The only hope in hell we have is to get all the discouraged voters who never note to help vote the Republicans out and then once they are out vote all the corporate sponsored democrats out. Call me pessimistic but I don't think we have a hope. We are f'd forever by the idiots who still vote for Republicans and those who prefer their snappy one liners and winning an argument over the truth. Reality can not be summed up in a one liner.
You're kidding right? Didn't you hear about the last antiwar protest, I think around 350,000+ were gathered around the White House and Capital building in their passive protest. Made no difference. Maybe 10 million would make a difference but then the cops would start bombing the crowds.
Maybe but I think this country is f'ked.
Less people are watching the idiot eye however you can vote with your dollars too, since corporations now own our government. You can start by boycotting Exxon Mobil that supports terrorists on both sides of the pond.
Like they are the only ones buying terrorist oil?
How about we just refuse to re-elect anyone in Federal Government
who now holds an office?
How about we get off our a$$es and go to a real campaign stop
and ask some hard questions.
WHY has only about $10 million of the $200 BILLION in disaster
Relief money been distributed to the Katrina Survivors?
WHY Has $40 BILLION more been refused from foriegn governments
on the pretext that "We don't have the infrastructure in place to
WHY are people who now live in other states still paying mortgages
on houses in New Orleans that have been bull-dozed, and the Feds
are doing nothing to stop this travesty?
WHY is anyone at FEMA still holding a job? We should have fired the
whole lot and started a NEW organization with a NEW name. FEMA
leaves an after taste like a crap sandwich.
WHY are only 1/3 of the schools hit open?
My then 6 year old son watched the news and saw a dog wandering around the disaster. He asked some good questions. Why were they
left behind? Who was helping THEM? How would they eat? I gave him
the best answers I could. The government wouldn't let the people take
them when they evacuated. No one. I don't know.
So he, on his own, got his cub scout pack to start Pennies 4 Pets. These
5 ADHD scouts proceded to raise $20,000 for the pets. I called Hill's
Pet Foods and placed an order for $20 G in various pet foods. Or I tried to. We ended up sending over $50 G of pet food to New Orleans,
Shipped by Hills Gratis, distributed by 20 volunteers who only got gas money.
If a 6 year old boy with ADHD can make all that happen, why can't
100s of MILLIONS of adults get something done?
having an unbiased nobody is more of a risk than having a biased person from the U.S., because if you pay attention you should know that they are going to screw up and not do what they are going to say. thats a given.
Well I like to say "Freedom isn't free" because of all the lives that went towards making the U.S. a free country, from the civil wars to now.
and just curious. Liberals are seeking more freedom, but what about this Don Imus thing? Isn't it the liberals with their own agenda (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson) the ones who made an outrage about the issue and got him kicked off the air? So do the liberals care about freedom of speech?
Only if your GW or a minority.
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