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Drivetrain Not shifting,, wtf happened?

Discussion in 'Drivetrains' started by escortponyjunkie, Nov 27, 2014.

  1. escortponyjunkie

    escortponyjunkie FEOA Donator

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    So I jus dropped off my mom and took off... so I pull up to the stop sign and said f it... romped on her.. shifted thru first... to second... to third... and then attempted fourth and the speedo dropped to 0 and the shifter was stuck just on the edge of fourth and neutral... let go of clutch and it grinds.. car was still running.. can't get it out of fourth and can't put it into gear... WTF happened????? 91 ford escort pony btw. Help plz! How do I fix it?
  2. Neuron

    Neuron FEOA Member

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    I would check out the shift linkage first and clutch operation.
  3. ShakeZilla19

    ShakeZilla19 My name is ^^^

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    The car said F it back!

    It does not sound good, maybe broken shift fork? So, now it is jammed in between gears?
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    sounds like a bent shift fork to me.
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    If you want to do that kind of driving, you should buy a car built for that. Your Pony was built for gas mileage and gentle driving. A GT would hold up a bit better, but a ral performance car is the best route.

    Sounds like some internal damage was done. Probably cheaper to get another trans rather than fixing the current one. Hope it doesn't cost you too much..
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    If it does cost too much it may be time for a new car..... :-(
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    Transmission at a junk yard isn't too terrible but that's assuming you can replace on your own. If you're paying some one to do all the work, it may be cheaper to get another running car.
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    Ya I replaced my clutch maybe a cpl years ago... so I'm pretty sure me and the haynes man can figure it out.. lack of a garage and with cold illinois winter coming... I fear she will be sitting for this winter. :-(
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    Welp gettin her towed finally today. Have my lil pony home Friday after I get paid and can pay the tow service... $125 for a 13 mile tow... ouch.. well 26 round trip... but still.. damn that hurts when santa already gets most my check right now and til xmas.
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    Broken Clutch plate is my guess.
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    How does that make the shifter stick around the 4th gear area? I assume you mean pressure plate. If that's broken he could attempt to go into any gear, just will resist.
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    I can't move the shifter into or out of gear. Its like stuck between.. still tryin to figure out a way to work on it, without the cold weather, or wetness.. its just sitting there lookin all pretty and clean under the carport.. not movin... :(:confused:
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    Haha.. its cold and snowy in illinois... and I am not fortunate enough to have a garage
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    And beings it is winter... I'm not desperate to get it on the road!
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    I noticed he said that the speedo dropped suddenly to 0 then the shifter locked up . From what I know about the speedo gear coming off and gumming up the works it sounds like this is what happened. I put in an ancient post about this years ago. When the speedo drive gear comes off it goes down into a pocket in the bottom of the transmission where there is a mechanism for the shifter linkage to keep it from hitting reverse gear when you are coming out of 5th. Normally it would ride on one side of the mechanism and prevent shifting into gears on the ' up ' side of the throw and ( being plastic ) it would then sometimes when you travel backwards a bit wash over to the other side of the mechanism and get in the way of the ' down ' side of the shifter throw. Since you were in the process of ' banging gears ' pretty heavily it caused it to just bind it up real good to where you couldn't shift at all. If you could get it to come loose you would then experience what I just described. The only way to then correct it is to either take the trans out of the car, take it apart and get the gear out or just maybe possibly shake the transmission upside down like trying to get pennies out of a piggy bank and not have to take it apart. I once explored the idea of figuring out if there was a place in the bottom of the trans where you could drill a big enough hole to get the gear out without taking the trans out and then tap it with pipe threads and put a plug in it. Sorry I never did figure that one out. Normally the speedo gear will not smash up like you might think, instead it just gets beat up into a plastic ball and gets in the way. Your transmission should still be perfectly fine, just a lousy piece of plastic getting in the way
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    That's exactly what I think it is. I am still waiting on a decent day and I got sum other projects happening in accordance with my wedding in 29 days. Building a bench and a backdrop. But after that is done I'm gung-ho on tryin to fix my lil pony. Thank u for ur input and a lil more hope to my original consensus.
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    Back in 2008 I bought a 93 wagon that had that weird problem. I trusted myself that I could fix it, after all, I got to see that all the gears could work. I ended up taking the whole trans apart which was a lot of fun. I wish I had someone to tell me about this as I might not had to disassemble but maybe just dump it upside down. I wish I had figured out a good place on the case to drill a hole so maybe you wouldnt have to even take it out of the car but I would have to do that while I had it apart and I didnt think of it till after it was back together. When you get into it contact me and I'll see if I can help as much as I can. I'll see if I can post pictures here from when I had it open
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    I replaced this clutch once before about 3 years ago or so. Did it myself. First time ever doing it. Used haynes manual and it all went pretty well considering I was using a floor jack on a small sheet of osb on gravel. Lol
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    when i take the speed sensor out there should be a gear attatched to it right?

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