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  1. FordMan59

    FordMan59 FEOA Member

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    I bought a 2016 Nissan Versa SV Monday. It had previously been in a rear end collision and had to get a new rear bumper cover, 1 tail light assembly and minor repair to a quarter panel so it came with a rebuilt title. I inspected it good prior to buying it and it looked like they done a good job on the repair. When I bought it it had 10546 original miles. I got it for $5300. This car probably meets all criteria for very good condition except the body work and tire condition. According to KBB very good condition would be valued at $9722, but even bringing it down to good condition without a rebuilt title the value would be $9423 so I feel I got a great deal on it. With less than 11K miles on it I'm pretty sure I can drive $5300 worth out of it. Working off the good condition figure and what I actually paid for the car the rebuilt title saved me about 43.75% off the value. I'll take a rebuilt title to save $4123 on a 10K mile, 3 year old car that would be valued at less than $10,000 without a rebuilt title.

    I think I may thin out my herd of Escorts a little bit and sell all of them except the '97 wagon and '02 SE. My wife used to have seizures and wasn't allowed to have a driver's license until she had brain surgery to remedy the seizures. She just took a job further from home and is planning to get her license so she can take herself to and from work. The body on the '02 is a bit rough but it's in good mechanical condition for 186K miles so this is probably going to become her everyday car until she gets a couple years driving experience.
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    Isn't that one of those Nissans that have a crappy CVT that's famous for failing?
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    Yeah, they've had some trouble with them in the past. I plan to do fluid changes on a regular basis and am hoping it will be one of the good ones. From my understanding they also made some changes to the CVT in either '15 or '16 I don't remember which and they say they're not as bad as the earlier models. My son has a '14 Sentra with about 50K miles and it's doing fine thus far. I'm probably going to do fluid changes about every 25-30K miles. I've read of some instances of people having these transmissions with 200K+ miles. When I was 16 years old one of these transmissions probably wouldn't have held up but I'm much easier on cars as a whole than I was then. If it doesn't with hold up with regular fluid changes and grandpa style driving then they're no good. In 42 years of automotive ownership I've never had a transmission problem other than some bearings in a Mazda 5 speed manual. I'm loving the fuel mileage. According to the onboard fuel consumption computer it's getting 46.8 MPG on the first tank I've run through it. Most trips have been 15+ miles on 4 lane or 2 lane rural roads. depending on the road most driving has been in the 45-55 MPH range using c/c. When I refill the tank I'll do the actual miles/gallons and see how accurate the computer estimate is.
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    Yeah, but why take a chance like that?
    The shitty Powershift "automatic" transmission is the reason why I don't own a new Focus.
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    Cymmantix My old archenemy, RAKES!

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    I drive a '13 Focus for work with the automated manual. I can attest to its crappiness. It feels like it's broken all the time, is always in the wrong gear, upshifts too quickly, takes ages to downshift, and is generally dimwitted and dumb at all times. I can't believe I've gotten used to it. The company owns 3; the other 2 have had the TCM fail. I'm waiting until it happens on the one I drive.

    /end threadjack. Best of luck with the Nissan. Coincidentally the company I work for also owns 2 Versas (I think they are 2015's). They are the lowest end model and not very good cars IMO, but have been generally reliable so far.
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    My brother had a Versa several years ago. Not sure what model his was but I'd guess maybe a 2007 or 2008. His was a manual transmission. When it got wrecked I think it had about a 100K miles and was still a good car. I was thinking about a Focus too but when this Nissan came up I decided to give it a try. Speaking of the lowest end model I have an '88 Escort Pony that didn't even come from the factory with a radio, it went over 500K miles. My brother bought it new in '88 for $5888 drove it 146K miles, sold it to me and bought a new '93 or '94 Escort wagon. I bought the '88 in Sept. '93 but can't remember whether his wagon was a left over from '93 or whether it was '94 that had just been released.
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    I found out the mileage computer is a bit optimistic on the Versa. When I filled it up on the first tank of gas the computer said it was getting 46.8 MPG when I did the math it came up to 42.345 MPG or about 10.5% less than estimated. The outdoor temperature has dropped and as of now the computer is showing it's getting 43.5 MPG on this tank so I suspect it to actually be about 39-40 MPG. Of course it could be I got the tank fuller on the last fill and when you're putting in less than 10 gallons a little extra would cut the mileage quite a bit. I figure after it's been driven 4-5 thousand miles I should be getting a good idea of what kind of mileage to expect. Spring and warmer temperatures will also help mileage.
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    Cymmantix My old archenemy, RAKES!

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    You should get at least 40 with the CVT if you don't pound on it at all times. I hate the CVT, but it does help in that regard.
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    The EPA estimates on the Versa with CVT are 31 city, 39 highway and 34 combined. I like the way the CVT keeps those RPM's down. As best I remember when I'm doing 55 MPH on flat terrain I'm only turning about 1600 RPM. Personally I like a manual transmission but my wife is just learning to drive so an automatic or CVT is best in that regard. She's going to use the '02 Escort for her daily driver when she gets her license. I've still got my '97 wagon that has a 5 speed.
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    My wife has an 09 Versa that's well kept with 65k on it. I could never get above 32 mpg highway. My scort on the other hand... I get 38 with the sending unit leaking slightly. Now that I have a fresh tank I'm going for 40!
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