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    super402 New Member

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    What would you guys suggest for my new and final no spense spared Escort GT audio system? Give me your best shots. I have acouple of different configs in my mind, but would liketo see what you guys suggest. It might give me a different approach or spark a new idea in my head.
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    what music do you like?
    what is your end goal? SQ, SPL, SQL?


    NEUMAN
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    Dont really have any goals yet. Just thought I wopuld see what people were using now a days. I have a smaller system in my truck I put in aseveral months ago, but I havent been into the audio in several years.
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    All of them are to small. You really want my last system to have only one sub? lol just messign with you. I was thinking 4 12's, or 6 12's, 4 15's, 6 15's. Something big and nice. Im not much on bandpass boxes, just like the simple stuff. Sealed or ported.

    BTW Eric, how did you like those Alpine subs? I have never used those. I have always used Kicker or Crunch. Kicker mostly.
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    All of them are too small? you must be going for spl then!
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    the typeR's are power hungry. the S's and E's are more responsive to lower power needs. but seriously if you want big and loud there are only a few ways to go. an practically none of them will be found in a retail store. DD, sundown, & DC for subs. amps those are all over the place in big and small power loads.


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    I have been looking at the S's. I saw the R's would be hungry. I have just never seen any in use or had any of them. I am not really into it for the loudness. I like the bass. I stil have alot of the old school bass songs that I used in competitions back then. I may go for something on the smaller side. Not sure yet. I like big bass systems. Especially in my GT's.
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    well i know im very happy with my DD 10. i know cheap is pretty happy with his DD 12 also.


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    Yes pretty danged happy, that thing moves some air and body panels!! But as Neuman said DD, Sundown and DC are the way to go. Imo 1 properly powered sub will be louder and sound better than a multiple sub setup bought from a big box store. Before this setup I was running 2 alpineS 12's on 1k and was not impressed with the sq to say the least. Are you planning on running mid’s.? I’m very interested in seeing this play out.
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    I am not buying all my stuff from a big box store. I do my own installations. Yes I will have mids. I may not be able to go as big as I wanted. My 7 year old son loves old cars right along side of me. He ask me if I would take him and my daughter to school in it when I was through. Well, I cant do that with a wall in it. Know what I mean. So its back to the drawing board. I have never heard of DD, Sundown and DC. Those DD's look impressive. I went to their website.

    I am pondering on 4 10"s now. That was the very first system I had back in 88 or 89'. That way I can still keep my back seats for now. My 7 year old son loves old cars and I want to keep it that way. My oldest son 16 isnt interested in them.

    So if I went back to 4 10's what components would you guyus use?
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    if yo do your own nstalls that is a plus. but what is needing to be known is what is your budget. what are you willing to spend on equipment. that will determine the most. hardware and materials are teh nickel and dime items in this game.


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    I dont have a problem with spending the money. This is my GT for goodness sake. lol I am not going to blow alot on it if I dont have to.

    Its just I dont know what is out there now days. I know what I used back then is still here, but I also know there is more out there now that is probably better. Where I had 4 15's in my car, you could probably take 4 10's from today and blow my 4 15's away from back then. That is all I am asking. Im not asking anyone to design my stereo for me. I have alot of experience installing them as a teen and into my 20's some. I just know alot has changed since I was into it big time. In my 89' Silverado I have 2 Kicker Comp 12's being pushed with a Alpine 500 watt amp wired in parallel. it sounds good. I have Kicker speakers in the rest of the factory locations.Also have a Kicker crossover (first one I ever used, always used eq's).
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    Oh only 4-10's well..... That’s still going to be nutzzz! Nice to see someone going crazzy with a 1st gen! For components. Rainbow Reference..J/k I would look at Focal, CDT (good sale on ES gold series right now) or Hertz to name a few. But speaker choice is very personal... what my ears like yours may not.
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    I dont know for sure yet. May end up wit 4 12's. Who knows. I was actually referring more towards what brands instead what exact speakers. I know the drill, what I like you might not. I have just been out of the car audio world for a while except for my Silverado system, which is small. I have always had decent sized systems in my GT's and definately want to continue the rend with this one as it may be the last one I go full out on.
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    a lot has changed. find a sub from pre 93ish and its not going to handle more then 500 watts rms. however it ssensitivity rating is going to be over 91 or 92db at 1w and have an x-max of maybe 15mm. now its lucky to find a sub that does more then 89db at 1w but the x-max is anywhere from 15-30mm and a power rating of upwards of 1000-1200rms as an average. you need to sit down figure out your over all design plans then figure out what you want to install in the configuration you like. my designs normally go like this...

    customers musical taste.
    customers car purpose. daily driver, show, weekend cruiser, etc.etc.
    customers budget

    those are the three key elements.

    my car for example. currently a 91 egt.
    i listen to everything but country.
    car is my daily driver. so i need it to haul a Costco run from time to time and i have two kids.
    its a full DD budget minded build. CS6.5 comps in customer built door pods, DD 1010b in a 1.7 cu.ft vented enclosure tuned to 31hz, and a DD C5c 4 channel flushed into a fullfloor pannel carpet replacement.
    total cost if i was to sell it as it sits (or to duplicate for someone) roughly 1100+tax; installed and tuned......anyone want to buy it? LOL




    NEUMAN
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    Eric,
    I have no idea what you are referring to on the x-max. lol But I also listen to everything pretty much. From bass to rap to rock to some country. My car will be a weekend cruiser more or less. I may take the kids to school in it some, but I also have a truck for that. I have no budget in mind. If I brought my car to you and said here it is, heres $2000 put me a system in it. What would you use? Keep in mind not to add in your labor as I will do all installing myself. I want good stuff in this one as I will have it for a long time. I definately want the wow factor in it when it hits, but then again I dont want to spend $500 - $1000 on a sub to do it. Feel free to give me a call sometime if you like. I can pm you my number. I dont have a problem with it.

    Dont forget to check out my pics of the joystick eq.
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    x-max another term for excursion.

    as for building the system. are you wanting to recover or do you have a need for the doors to be recovered? i would suggest a nice set of mid drivers in the kicks and a true sub woofer in the door. the nice thing about gen1's is the high placement of the window crank. it allows you a lot of space to build a functional and tasteful door pod with little to no obstructions. you could even almost run a sealed enclosure with out hacking the doors frame work up. that would set an awesome front stage. 2 g's is a good amount of cash. i could really do some shopping not figuring in labor or build materials. a pair of 10's on like 1000-1200 watts and a front stage on 300-400. would murder 90% of the cars in your neighborhood. with the trunk the subs could be done in a lot of different configurations. but a vented and properly tuned enclosure is going to get you the most of everything.

    i will post a comment in the other thread about the joystick.


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    You can make 2 10's hit that much now a days? Wow it has come further than I thought it had. What kind of subs and amps would you run? I kind of like the DD's. They have got my attention as of now. The door panels are not bad, but if it will sound better then Im all for it. Why do you need subs in the doors? We never used them in the doors back when. What would you charge me to build me a box for the 2 10's? Its been a long time since I built a ported box and would feel more comfortable having someone do it that does it regular. Everyone around here uses sealed, and its been a while since I built one of those also. I want my stuff right, I do not go around or half do something. If its not right I dont want it. Thats the kind of person I am. It wont be hard to murder anything around here anymore. The biggest people run now around here are 2 15's in a sealed box.
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    i can't quote you DD but im sure there is a local dealer. if not call DD direct. ask for Terry and tell him Neuman Audio sent you his way. i don't get anything for this but it lets them know im not selling over the internet and out of my territory. but a pair of 1510's in dual 4ohm voice coil and a CM1000 wired in series to 1ohm would be nasty! if you want you could step up to the 1512's if your worried. the 1500 series all have the same motor so the power rating stays the same its just a matter of air space configuring.

    if i built you a box i would need to know exactly the subs you where running, how many, and would need you to messure a few things so i could make it fit really snug in the trunk. then i could determine a price.

    as for sealed. its nice but it is a sufficating way to build a box. granted i still do sealed boxes from time to time. they do have there purpose. if you don't like to drop below 50hz and want your bass to peak around 85hz. which in my eyes is a lower mid bass freq.

    as for subs in the doors or up front. yes it has come to that. lol though teh powering of them is not like that of a trunk set up. an most the time its a PA style woofer. something that plays 70hz to around 300hz.


    NEUMAN

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