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Hi all, I am new to this group. I just bought a 95 Escort 4dr sedan several weeks ago and I need help. It is a Mexican market car (vin starts with a 3) and I have a coworker that has a 2.0 SPI motor for sale. My motor now (1.9 liter J code) has a lobe worn off the camshaft and I need another motor. The junkyard says that the ONLY motor compatible with my car is a 95 Mexican market motor. After searching on the internet, I came across this site and saw the pinned post that seems to indicate the 1.9 to 2.0 SPI swap is a "plug and play" install. Is this correct? And does the fact that mine is a Mexican market motor make any difference?
 

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the fact that it was made in mexico shouldnt have any bearing on whether or not you can use a US made engine or not.. in fact, all the engines, even the mex market engines were made in the same plants.

dont trust what junkyards say, they arent ASE certified, or anything else for that matter, and if they were, they wouldnt be working a junkyard. they dont know what parts interchange, only what parts come off of what cars.

If you have the J code 1.9, you have the same 1.9 that any other US model has.. it was only the K code (that still isnt proven to exist anymore) that was different.

so in your case, you can take any 91+ escort camshaft, 1.9 or 2.0 and put it in your car. in fact, that 2.0 SPI will fit and work in your car perfectly

so heres what you can do, take out your 1.9, put in the 2.0 SPI and its MAF sensor (important for the larger injectors in the SPI) and start it up.

the SPI is basically a larger 1.9 with a lil different intake design.
 

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totally agree there junk yard guys usually dont know what there talking about, specially when you tell them somthing will work usually they will argue with you
 

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Okay, thanks a lot for the info.
Still, there's a few more questions. The 2.0 has an auto tranny and the 1.9 is a 5 speed. Will I have to switch to the auto tranny on the 1.9 or will it bolt up to the 5 speed tranny?
Also, I know you said the computer from the 1.9 can control the 2.0, but I should be able to get the 2.0 computer with the engine. Should I switch it out too, and if I can keep the 5 speed, will the 2.0 computer work with the 2.0 engine being mated with the 5 speed?
 

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RangerDave said:
Okay, thanks a lot for the info.
Still, there's a few more questions. The 2.0 has an auto tranny and the 1.9 is a 5 speed. Will I have to switch to the auto tranny on the 1.9 or will it bolt up to the 5 speed tranny?
Also, I know you said the computer from the 1.9 can control the 2.0, but I should be able to get the 2.0 computer with the engine. Should I switch it out too, and if I can keep the 5 speed, will the 2.0 computer work with the 2.0 engine being mated with the 5 speed?
It's as simple as said earlyer. Take out the 1.9 and put in the 2.0. Swapping computers add a lot of unneeded time and work, you would also have to swap the entire harness, and possibly the fuel system depending on the year of the 2.0. Dont need to do worry about swapping ECU's.

You can keep your 1.9 5 speed tranny, just take off the 1.9 flywheel and use it on the 2.0.

You will need to use a 97 2.0 SPI fuel rail.

All the little details are in my cardomain, click on my sig pic below.
 

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dont forget to install a pilot bearing in the back of the crankshaft of the SPI, if it came out of an automatic car, it wont be there and needs to be for the mtx.
 

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1.9 TO 2.0 ENGINE SWAP (JEFFESCORTLX)

so i understand that the 2.0 is probally the easiest upgrade for the 2nd gen, how about taking a 1.8 gt motor and puting it in a 1.9 lx . do you need to swap motor mounts and wiring harness, how about fuel connections, ecu, or tranny for that matter. i have to run the engine that was available for the year. so my options are 1.8 or 1.9.
 

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1.9 TO 2.0 ENGINE SWAP (JEFFESCORTLX)

so i understand that the 2.0 is probally the easiest upgrade for the 2nd gen, how about taking a 1.8 gt motor and puting it in a 1.9 lx . do you need to swap motor mounts and wiring harness, how about fuel connections, ecu, or tranny for that matter. i have to run the engine that was available for the year. so my options are 1.8 or 1.9.
 

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well, your getting into some more serious stuff now... if you're gonna go that way, forget the 1.8l Escort GT engine, and get yourself a mazda GTX engine.

RECAP: the 1.8l DOHC ford engine, is actually a mazda engine, the same you would find in a Protege GT. The GTX, on the other hand is that same engine again, but with an added turbo boosting the power up to 180hp. It's really not all that more difficult to install a GTX than a GT..

but let me warn you, it's not a small job, the spi is a lot easier to swap into the escort LX... changing to GT or GTX does involve changing over the wiring harnesses and ecu, the tranny, the axles, the engine mounts, and a few other details... in the end, swapping in one of those engines will likely cost you tripple the price of swapping the 2.0 SPI and will take a lot more work and time. but if you are interested go to www.corksport.com and order a 1.8l BPT engine with ecu and wiring.

some will tell you the SPI is a good base to turbo later on, and will be a fraction of the price of a GTX swap in the end... i`t's all a question of opinion... I went GTX for my LX and it took me forever and I screwed up a lot and it probably cost me over $4,000 total...

hope this helps you make an informed decision.
 

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1.8 gt swap, (Etienne)

thank you for the info, i should have specified that i need to stay naturally aspirated , scca it. general rules more of less over see the class i will be racing in. i would be forced to compete with the 450 hp porche bugs and i am not ready for that, (car wise). so my option is to blue print the 1.9 or swap to a 1.8. and run stock. even blue printed and a few minor mods will not get me in to the 125+ hp range. and i will need every bit of that against a crx. or rx7. so do you know if i would be able to use the 1.9 wiring harness on the 1.8, my guess is no due to all the electronics are different. more specifically will the 1.8 wiring harness utilize the same under dash wiring to the ecu, will it plug right in to the 1.9 bulk head connector? will the 1.8 bolt up to the 1.9 transmission, (5 spd)?will the 1.8 use the same motor mounts? how about fuel line conections? any one with this type of experience please help, the clock is running on the race. thank you.
 

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engine swap. ( Etienne)

maybe i miss understood , the 1.8 is a mazda engine and you are saying that i would need to swap the wiring harness to make it work. swaping the harness cant be that big a deal if you get one that was out of a gt escort right? so the tranny is different. if that is the case i may not swap.
 

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1.9 harness/ecu on 1.8 will not work, as well as 1.8 harness/ecu on 1.9..

if you were to go to a 1.8 you would need to swap the ecu and harness as well

the 1.8 will have a different "half mount" but the passenger side of the mount should be the same or close

fuel lines should be the same (i believe)

i am not a 1.8 guy so do not quote me on this ,wait to get your answers..

you could always swap a 2.0 spi (preferably 97 cause of the fuel rail *returnline system) in for your 1.9 and that would net you roughly +27hp +17ft/lbs... then later down the road you could beef it up internally... this is the best way to go and you can still utilise your 1.9 stuff, including drivetrain and ecu/harness
 

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Re: engine swap. ( Etienne)

nutt said:
maybe i miss understood , the 1.8 is a mazda engine and you are saying that i would need to swap the wiring harness to make it work. swaping the harness cant be that big a deal if you get one that was out of a gt escort right? so the tranny is different. if that is the case i may not swap.
the 1.8 was designed and built by Mazda, and rebadged as ford.

To swap it into an LX you would need an entire GT front clip.

axles, transmission, wiring harness, ecu... for all that work you could just buy a GT and drive it.
 

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1.8 info (James92Scort)

thanks for the quick reply, it sounds as if it is to much work to swap to a 1.8. like you said just get a gt. well you should see what we did to this lx internally it looks like a baja racer, full roll, raised shorty shifter, everthing , coil overs big bars, just trying to get it to stand on two wheels in a turn. any way i dont know if i can run a 2.0 , i can ask the club. i have a sever compression differential on the #1 and #2 cylinder, i dont think its a head gasket, over 25 psi diff.can the 2.0 use 1.9 tin and cyl head? thk nutt
 

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the 2.0 spi block cannot use the 1.9 cyl head unless you change the pistons, since the 2.0 pistons are raised compared to the 1.9's, to counteract the larger combustion area of the 2.0 head as compared to the 1.9's.

You can use the 2.0 head on the 1.9, which jeff put the 'cannot do this' to rest, but it makes it an interferance engine since the valves can now touch the pistons if the timing belt goes... thing about this setup is it's a low compression setup which is no good for you

i would ask them about the 2.0 spi's acceptance... it would give you a much better edge in things.. also look into shaving the head to get a higher c:r.. as well as head work to get that much better flow down the road...

on your current setup, what are you running as far as engine accessories? you might want to elect to just having your alt, void your ps and ac (if you still have it, doubt it tho) and getting an mx3 v6 model manual steering rack.. also look at stiffening up your motormounts to help with launch, i think this is one of the best times of the race to take initiative... and hold your lead... the spi is such an awesome engine to do this with.. gl to you
 

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1.8 swap (NoTRiCe)

no ac or ps, stock 1.9 accell coil upgrade, custom air snorkel, kn filter, looking to fool the ecu to rich up the mix and bump timing, any suggestions, what is with the mx3 rack, better turn ratio?
 

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1.8 swap (NoTRiCe)

no ac or ps, stock 1.9 accell coil upgrade, custom air snorkel, kn filter, looking to fool the ecu to rich up the mix and bump timing, any suggestions, what is with the mx3 rack, better turn ratio?
 

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yes much better turn ratio, i forget the exact numbers, but it's definitely worth it (i have yet to find one yet, i'm not looking hard enough tho)

you can retard your timing by slotting the crankshaft positioning sensor and moving it back

you can tweak your fuel by working with your coolant temp sensor and iac i believe... (my head aint workin right right now, i need zzz, catch me in the morn)

gl later
 
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