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Hello everyone and thanks in advance for any help you've got. I've got 94 Escort Wagon with a 1.9 EDIS in it. The car starts right up, no problem, if the car is cold or if it is turned off and back on within a few minutes. Once the car warms up it will just die out of the blue. what I've figured out so far I can drive the car on very short trips (about a mile) in traffic but if I keep air flowing over the engine it will stay just cool enough to run but if I have to stop at 2 long stop lights its gonna die and it wont start back up for 15-30 minutes. It is so temperature sensitive that a hot day will shorten its range to about 4 blocks and on a cool night I can go about 5 miles.
I've spent 2 days searching the forums here and have come close but I'm not exactly sure of where to start.
The car is throwing a 211 code which according to Haynes is a Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) circuit fault. That is the only place in the whole book that mentions the PIP. As far as I can find here the PIP comes from the TFI but I can only find the TFI connected to a distributer, which my car doesn't have. So I need to know if the EDIS ignition module replaced the TFI (Ignition Control Module). See the TFI thing had me going because everyone said they were heat sensitive. Is the EDIS heat sensitive also or does anyone have any ideas. There are no vacuum leaks that I can find.
Another sign that may help with diagnosis is that after about a 1 second delay after the car dies I can hear the fuel pump and EEC power relays click off. When I turn the key both relays work but the car will not start until it fully cools down.
As I said I've searched every post I could find. I couldn't have gotten this far if it weren't for black93scort's post "Acronyms Explained", it's been open on my desktop for 3 days now, thanks a lot, great job. Also UnexplodedCows posts really helped me get on the right track.
If you have any advice or have had the same problem, your help would be much appriciated.
Thanks Again
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Sure sounds like the coil pack to me. That is a classic sign of a coil / coil pack going out. As resistance builds so does heat. The heat in turn builds more resistance and the cycle continues to a point where the coil simply refuses to fire a signal. Try a used one to confirm the problem and if it turns out to be the CDI pack...may I suggest the MSD replacement for a few bucks more than a stock one. Get the wires as long as you're at it. :wink:
 

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Thanks Dave8338 I'm off to the JY to give it a shot. Thanks for your speedy reply. I'll let you know what happens this afternoon.
By the way I was looking at the MSD packs before but they didn't have a listing for my car in their catalog, do you know which one I should use (once I have some money).
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I'm not Dave8338, but I may be able to help.

I think you should be able to use the MSD part no. 8241 coil pack. The pack is actually listed for a 4.6 L V8, but when Ford used distributorless ignition on their V8s, they actually used 2 4-cylinder coil packs, one for each bank of cylinders.

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The PIP signal comes from the EDIS module. I remember looking it up for someone else a couple months ago. Their car was giving the same code, they replaced the EDIS module and fixed the problem. Their car wasn't dying out just running extremely rough they said. It does have the symptoms of a faulty coil pack.
 

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Thanks Everyone, Well it took me 3 hours to go 15 miles to the JY. I grabbed a coil pack and just drove back in 20 minutes. I've never owned a car with a computer and this is a whole new world to me thanks again for everyone's help.
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OK so when I took the car out again it started with the same dying stuff but I also got a EDIS unit at the JY, just in case. Well I swapped it out and the car is running like a bat out'a hell.
Question; should I disconnect my battery to reset my computer?
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