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Ok, This should shake thing up a bit.

Rember I am not trying to put any one down. These are just my thoughts.

Hands down go for the L4. BPTorbo or Zentiic you pick. (Now all this goes for a 2end gen. I am sure it will fit for 1st and 3erd as well)

V6:

Think about. First look at all the modding you will have to do the get that V6 in the engine bay. (subframe, mounts,.............) Then look at the weight you are putting up front. (Can you say understeer.) Plus with all that weight think of the suspension. It too will have to be heaver. Not only to hold the weight of the V6 but to get the car to handdle like you want. Then look at what all you will have to do befor you can even think of a torbo. Ounce all the pretorbo work is done look at how little room you will have to place the torbos, and all the pluming for it. Then cost, it will cost you 1/3 more to maybe even twice as much if not more to get the same HP. Wireing will have to be compleatly redone, dash, engine bay, all of it. Days and days of work to get it all right. All of this is just touching on it.

L4:

Lets see if you have a GT you can trop it right in. You, a buddy, and a day off work and you could be done, if you know what you are doing. And if you have a LX well then get a GT doner car that has been recked for a $100 or so.(with that you can have rear disk brakes too) Of coursr the weight or lack there of. I have found that a BPT from a GTX is good to about 14 lb of boost befor you have to any mager work to it. That with a good sized intercooler should get you close to 250+ hp. That in a pony car that weighs in at 1800 to 2000 lb will do pretty good. Money sure a 210 hp Jspec 1.8 BPTurbo out of a GTR will run you around 2g, but for all the work you will be saving would be well worth it. 300+hp would not be too far off.

Now all of this is just off the top of my head. I just felt like rambling on for a while. Some of the numbers may be wrong.

What are your thought on this.
 

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Neuman's right, the Kl does bolt in, but yes it's heavyer and more complex to turbo, need 2 manifold and have less room to work with compared to a I4 (not L4). But the boosted Probe GT's make some nice power, but I do prefer the lighter easyer to work on I4.
 

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Going from a cast iron block CVH motor in an LX with A/C to an all aluminum V6 without A/C.. you're not going to cause too much harm to your weight balance.

Swapping the BP for the CVH, you'll need to replace the crossmember.. it's just as much work as the V6 swap.

Besides.. if you start out with a wrecked MX-3 GS you'll have the drivetrain and disc brakes.. plus the faster ratio steering rack and sport seats.

If you're going turbo.. I think the BP is the obvious choice. I wouldn't mind a 200hp KL-ZE swap.. but I wouldn't even consider turbocharging it.
 

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hey you guys cant forget about us First genners...what about our 3.0 Swap...i belive with proper mounts its just like another swap...i belive out of a probe...i was told it will all fit. And another board i dont remember which one...CrimsonRed is in the middle of it. He was gonna turbo the 1.9 HO but never finished and decided to go 3.0 instead.
 

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I'm thinkin' this out in my head, and i'm 95% sure the SHO intake mani. will be bumping the hood.. i mean, it is enormous..

and i have two words on the difference between the klze and the yamaha engines.. torque curve. yamaha's make more torque from 2500-7000rpm than the klze makes at it's peak - you have to rev a klze like a 4banger to get any power out of it. :)

which engine has the biggest aftermarket? easy - the klze. which one makes power easier? probably the yamaha - bigger displacement - better overall design. which one makes more power cheaper? klze. :) hands down.

edit - 500th post. holla
 

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torque curve on there bikes maybe but the SHO hits rev limit at 6250 and the KLZE can rev to 7250 like the BP series i believe. its also the reason the KLZE is nice its designed to rev high then when shifted is dropping to the begining of the powerband. the SHO has a restrictive intake manifold. you think all those damn rubber coupling is airflow friendly? the intake mani hitting the hood means one thing hood scoop aka - cool air flow to the intake runners something the KLZE could use if wanted also. the 4 cylinders its harder to make work as well but can be done with a bit of aluminum fab work.

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Um no....the SHO engine was tested to safely rev out to 9000 rpm. The only reason it redlines at 6700 rpm or whatever is because
1. it has to protect the systems like the oil pump, alternator, etc.
2. Ford would not allow another car to outshine the Mustang...ever. Which is why we don't get the supposed 300 hp Focus that was caught testing in Europe a few months back. :x
 

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neuspeedescort said:
most cars will bounce 9k but does it make power?

the focus you speek of is the FR200 right? or something like that now the APC focus has its style rims and wing?

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Of course it'll make power past it's redline. I think it pushed out 300 hp with a corresponding torque curve.

My Si makes 160 hp at 7600 rpm, and 111 ft lbs at 7000 rpm. Drop the redline to 7000 rpm and the peak hp will probably be around 6500 rpm and probably get around 120-130 hp out of it depending on the comp ratio and vtec cam lobes.
 
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