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Mounts a.t.

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    spike1488 Spike 1488

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    Ok guys so my 91 1.8l gt has a cross member across the drivers side front that supports the engine and tranny. My question is this, I think. This cross member has 2 mounts bolted to it one on the radiator side of the tranny and one on the firewall side. Are both of these mounts the same. I know i may be able to take them off and answer this but i need to drive the car to get the parts. Im trying to replace the rubber in the car because while it only has 58 thousand on it it is 28 yrs old. I spent some time under it recently and the bushings all look terrible so im goung to change every single one but i need to fix the mounts asap.
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    My Escorts are 2nd gen LX ones, so may be different. But on them, the cross member that runs below the bell housing is supported at the front by two 12mm bolts that run into captive nuts hidden in the crossmember below the radiator. And at the back the crossmember is supported to the subframe by two nuts, also of 12mm I believe. All 4 of them take a 17mm socket on my Escorts.
    Sometimes the front two bolts are rusted into the hidden captive nuts, and it can be a major problem to get them unscrewed.

    If you have trouble getting the rubber parts, a Mazda dealer might still stock them. That is where I got a set for one of my Escorts; the 91LX.
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    Ok mine are 14mm and 17mm but it's the same, it sounds like. My question is these 2 mounts that connected to the crossmember are they the same or are they different. They look close but like I said I haven't pulled it out yet because I need to drive it... Everyone pretty much still carries this stuff so finding them won't be hard I already have actually. They name one a tranny mount and one a rear engine mount but they both attach to the tranny, a little confusing. By the way the gas tank find was awesome I appreciate that big time... The car is a california car so it doesn't have rusty bolts and stuff.
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    The nuts taking a 14mm socket are for the mounts. The 17mm nut/bolt size are the ones that support the whole crossmember. Ford calls the one at the back a transmission mount, and the one closest to the radiator a motor mount. They are quite different in shape. Changing the back one involves getting the backside of the transmission lowered enough to undo the two bolts holding the bracket to the transmission. You will likely need to remove the joint where the cat converter attaches to the intermediate exhaust pipe, and to remove the battery and battery tray, and the motor mount under the batter tray - before the trans can be lowered enough to make removal of the bracket that 'transmission mount' is in. I used a scissor jack to do the motor raising and supporting and lowering.
    I usually replace the transmission mount when I have the trans out of the car, (have done this same work on all of my five Escorts, and other belonging to friends), but having to do one just last month that was making a loud drumming sound, the transmission mount came out in two pieces. The rubber was ripped apart.
    Good Luck.
    P.S. Getting the crossmember out can be seriously hard, if the bolts in front are seized, or if the large nuts holding the back end up to the crossmember are seized..... You can spray penetrating oil into the lateral crossmember below the radiator; there are a couple of holes to spray into - which unfortunately dont line up with the captive nuts on those big bolts.
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    I have already taken the cross member off last weekend when i changed the drive axles. This is how I found the bad mounts. So i wont just be able to loosen the bolt going thru the mount and take it out, I gotta pull the carrier too?
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    The cross member came out easy by the way. Everything went together easy too. It looked pretty simple but your instructions have kind of thrown me for a loop... I just took the battery tray and stuff out too. Now there was some rust on the bottom of that had to grind a bolt off. But it'll come out easy now i expect...
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    With my 2nd gen Escorts, the long bolt cant come out, since it bumps into the side of the subframe or the transmission. I had to get it lowered further than that - by which time it was easier to take out the two bolts holding the bracket to the transmission, than try to get the long bolt out sideways.

    There is likely some rust under every battery tray. Any liquids building up during long drives can dribble down, and cause rust below it. I have not yet had to drill out any of those bolts, but I have had to use my oxy-acetlyene torch to soften the threads the bolts go into.

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