Maybe I´m crazy. I dunno.

GM products SUCK

oh and btw, spooki, I recently thought about it all, and I don´t think I believe in brand-loyalty. I mean, if you´ve never driven a GM product how can you say it sucks? (you probably have, so i respect your opinion.) By your logic of saying the opposite brand sucks, someone who hates Ford could say Ford products suck, and i have a few coworkers who do hate Ford, so believe me, I hear it about my car daily. To me it all comes down to personal choice of a vehicle. I´m not asking you to buy a Camaro, I´m saying I want to. thanks for the input though.

OUCH!!!!!! You don´t deserve to be a scort owner. How could you do that to it? This reminds me of Herbie. You know the scort is just going to kill the camaro when you´re not looking. You need to put your scort up for adoption for even having such an evil thought. I´m game for adopting it though

such an evil thought? what evil thought did i have about MY scort? I don´t hate her, but my coworkers don´t like Ford. You´re right, if i turbo my scort, give it 250 hp + then it probably will kill the Camaro, but the Camaro is something I´ve been wanting. I probably won´t get one till next summer though because i don´t want to buy it and drive it in the snow. I don´t want to drive anything in the snow...but the Escort is more fun in snow.

Ouch Scort, hard comment.

I´m not brand loyal at all. In fact when I bought my scort I never even test drove it. All I was looking for was a DOHC motor with a 2dr 5speed, and under 4k. I would happily get a C5 Vette. In fact I dont think its the brand that makes the car, its the engineering. All companies have made the best and worst. ... Okay, Except for McLaren

(all opinion really, not necessarily true)
Ford:
Worst: base model Pinto (oh yeah)...maybe a good run against the Taurus (hahaha lol)

Best(s): 67 Cobra, GT40, GT90, 93´ EGT ,

GM:
Worst: Metro 1.0L, early 80´s Nova (literally, No Va), 80´s Cavy´s, hmm.. P.O.N.T.I.A.C 1975----
Best: C5 Vette, 67-69 Camaro (oh yeah),
The LS1..nuff said there. more to be said

Chrysler(Mitsubishi):
Worst: SOHC Neon !!!! Okay I dont want to spend all day typing
Best: DSM! Hemi-what? first all american V10 you KNOW IT! (but damn uncomfortable to drive)

Okay anyhow, little fun with the board. g´night all

I didn´t hear about a twin turbo WRX, But I have heard that Subaru is thinking about bringing the WRX STi to the states. (STi being the European Base Spec WRX)...which brings us 276 hp, it´s either a 5 sp MT or a 6 sp MT, (can´t remember, but i do know European STi´s have 6 sp.) and AWD as well, maybe thats what he was talking about to you, I dunno. That sent shivers down my spine. I´ve loved the WRX since it was unveiled and put on sale in the states in March 2001, and i´d give anything to buy that car. BUT...there´s the Camaro on the other hand, it´s something about an American 5.7L V8 that also sends shivers down my spine... even more so right now. Yes, I´ll have a few options on my Z28 IF I buy it. But not 7 Grand worth.
I´d go with power windows and a 6 speed MT, w/o the Hurst (it´ll be fun putting my own short throw shifter on there), fog lamps, and a few other minor details. But I´m not sure if I want the responsibility/costs of it yet. I don´t care what my friends think of my car now, go look at my car at www.cardomain.com/id/james92scort you´ll notice how shitty my car looks at the moment. As I´ve said before, I´m not brand loyal. hell I have like 8 different brands of socks in my closet right now, none of them match with each other. I´m thinking about buying this car because it´s my turn to get something that I´ve truly wanted. If I scrap the Camaro idea and buy a WRX, so be it...they´re roughly the same price, close 0-60 times, etc. It´s just that the WRX is already turbo´d at 14.2 psi, so it´s not going to be easy to up that to get more power out of it without ripping out the exhaust/intake, etc.
Either way, I get what I feel I deserve.
Thanks for all the input, I would have written this morning, but I didn´t have the time before work started.

I know I shouldn´t say this on a Ford website, but, I am really starting to hate Ford alltogether. Don´t get me wrong I love my EGT, but Ford as a whole just isn´t up to par. Did you know that they just recalled almost 600,000 Focuses (Foci?) do to safety problems .Other than that, I do not prefer any particular brand. I look at the cars themselves an then decide if they are worthy enough to be in my driveway.

yeah i said gm sucks, cant you take a joke. and i dissed comarro/firebird because i have driven them, and i wasnt impresed. there just cheep horsepower.i bet you cant find one older than 6 years that the paint hasnt started to come of, the dash falling apart, the head liner falling down, and then it starts to burn oil.