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Lost a set of keys and key fob...

Discussion in '3rd Gen 1997-2002 2.0L SOHC' started by Escort230, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Need to get a new set of keys and remote key fob for my 1999 Escort.
    Can I just get the keys copied at a locksmith or should I order from Ford?
    Regarding the remote door locking key fob, is it coded to the vehicle? Or can I just snag a used one?
    I've tried to call the parts dept at the local dealer on this numerous times and they never answer their farking phone.
  2. pextor

    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    I have fobs for your car and I can show you how to program them.

    As for keys, Your best bet might be to get the whole thing re-keyed. I don't know if the dealer can make keys yet based on VIN or not.
  3. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Thanks for the quick reply!

    I found a pretty good vid that shows the programming process. Very cool. On a Mercedes you have to go to a dealer, show your registration or pink slip and order one. Takes like a week, and cost $200.


    How much for a fob?` People seem to indicate you can get one at junkyard for a couple dollars, but here in Cali nothing is a couple dollahs.
    They tack on environmental fees, tax, etc. blah blah.

    Saw one on Amazon for ~$6
    https://www.amazon.com/2000-2008-Keyless-Remote-Programming-Instructions/dp/B00681BDXI/ref=sr_1_30?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1539888423&sr=1-30&keywords=ford escort key fob

    if this the right one.

    Should I just get the keys copied at locksmith? I still have one set. I just need a spare set.
  4. pextor

    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    Those are the correct ones. I usually sell them for a little more :)

    If you still have a functioning key, you can get copies made just fine. Just test them fully (trunk, doors, and ignition) before you leave the locksmith's so you can be sure they work completely.
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  5. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Thanks for the reply! I saw no new threads in like a month...didn't expect such a swift reply. My poor escort, it could really use a little TLC.
    Was under the hood the other day, ooooo so dirty.
    And was checking to see if I might need an oil change.
    HA! It's been since Jan 2016 but only gone < 5K miles.
    Bought a quart to top it up. Oil still looks clean.

    Since I've had it I put new front brakes, a fuel filter and plugs...
    that's about it. Have a Gates belt and water pump sitting on a shelf if I just
    had a place to do it. Was parked under a tree and the paint got stained.
    Needs a good once over. I'm not sure what my mileage is, but it's a great running around car for errands. The old c230 gets like 12 around town in stop and go. "Gerty" gets 30 + I'm guessing and seems to run all the better on the cheapest gas.
    The benz does good on longer trips, turning in 25 mpg but terrible around town and needs Premium top tier 4 buck a gallon fuel.

    Thanks again!
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    I bought a car (not an Escort) at an auction. There was a guy walking around offering to make keys for the cars. When my turn came, he took out a mopar blank, and working from the passenger door, and with two small files, he made up a key that worked in the doors and the ignition. Charged $30 for this. It took him less than 15 minutes.
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    I would love to see that process in action.
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  8. 4cylinder

    4cylinder FEOA Member

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    what part of cali are you in. I have these parts and key blanks to go with them

    they are easy install and reprogram so you should be up and running again in less than5 minutes
  9. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    FYI I'm in Bay Area, San Jose.
    So, why does the one I listed say it's only for 2000-2008?

    Whats the deal with these fobs? How many different ones are there?
    This one say 315mhz here...
    https://www.ebay.com/i/332566344592?chn=ps
    But doesn't list escort...not ordering this one, but just trying to understand how the numbers on the back of the fob correlate in the real world. Like a Ford fob primer you might say...I got the impression they were all the same, no?
    Here's all the numbers printed on the back of my existing and functioning fob.

    F878-15K601-8A
    FCC GQ43VT11T
    CAN 1470 102 326

    So how many variations are there? Are there different frequencies? How do you decode the numbers listed above? As in what is their meaning.

    I found some that claim they are compatible and none of the numbers match with whats listed above, and yet others like the Chinese one on ebay states if it's not on the list it's NOT compatible, but look freakin' identical to me, so what is the deal? In another thread you stated there are only the large ones and the small ones....(guy with no fobs trying to have remote locking) Sorry if I seem to be repeating myself...
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  10. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Found the FCC listing 315 mhz once I got the numbers right.
    Still want to know how variations of these things there are...
    just ordered some CR2032 batteries, mine is over 5 years old...

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  11. rbailin

    rbailin FEOA Member

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    A Ford dealer can cut a key based on your VIN if they still have a handheld key cutter. I've had this done on each of my Escorts because the keys that came with them were so worn that they didn't work well consistently, especially in winter.

    You still have to test the results in your doors, trunk and ignition because the key might still need a little filing.
  12. madmatt2024

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    The style fob shown should be the correct one. I've used that style for on a 98 Escort ZX2 and was able to program the same fob to an 08 Taurus. Ford used them for a long time. 97 and older use a different style fob.
  13. Escort230

    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    So finally received my cheap ass key fob from China for $2.75 including shipping. I wasn't in a hurry so no biggie. Took like 2 months though.
    Followed the instructions in the video...took a few times to get it work, the key kept hanging when I was turning, but finally got it to work.
    Can't believe it was all so cheap. The key cost more to copy than the the price of the fob. My C230 the key/fob is $200.
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    Sheesh, you would have had one from me over a month ago.
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    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Yeah, I wasn't in a hurry.
    Had one set of keys, and was concerned I could lose them. Originally figured the fob was keyed to the car and would need to be ordered, but the damn dealer parts dept never answers the phone, and so finally researched online and was very pleasantly surprised how inexpensive these things are and easy to program. I still can't get over how cool it is, with the key 8 times thing and all. Wow.
    We have 3 cars, 2 Mercedes and "Gerty" the Escort.
    I use it for short trips, and errands mainly. No fun driving a clutch in traffic, and traffic we got around here.
    And since my lady got her ML350 fixed, it purrs like a kitten and drives so nice...hard to want to drive anything else. My 02 C230 needs engine mounts...the escort is rather small and uncomfortable for me at 6' 2".
    But takes a licking and keeps on ticking...and has the lowest mileage of the bunch!

    You notice I didn't post a link...don't want to cut into your potential business.
    :)
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm 6'3 and always fit in my escort just fine.
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    Escort230 I named my baby OJ.

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    Wow, I had to look that one up 170SV.
    It appears that the lowly Escort SOHC has about
    double the HP of the SV. ;)
    The W136 from photo's I saw looks about the same from the 30's all the way through the 50's. And it appears that attaining one, especially the droptop, is a fairly expensive proposition. One could purchase 1000 nicely equipped Escorts for about the same price. LOL.
    Your gripe about visibility, well, I don't think that applies to modern
    euro droptops, since most retract quite nicely.
    An M3 hardtop convertible, would be quite nice indeed IMHO.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    My only comment about fitting in my Escort, is that on long drives, I would like it if the seat bottom was an inch or two longer - for thigh/leg support. But my wife also drives our Escorts, and she is 4'10". If the seat bottom was any longer, it would bother her - and I wouldnt be able to switch places and snooze while she drives.

    I also own a MB. Mine is a 48 170SV 2 seat cabriolet. My gripe with european convertibles is that the tops only retract partway. You cant see behind you.

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