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License-plate spray foils traffic cameras :lol:

Motorists have litigated against them, fired bullets at them and thrown garbage on them - all to get back at the traffic cameras that have caught them in the act of running a red light or speeding.

Now they have a new weapon in their arsenal, and it comes in a can for $29.99. A clear spray called Photoblocker can be applied to license plates to make them hyper-reflective and unreadable when the camera flashes.

The product, marketed by online merchant Phantom Plate (www.phantomplate.com), defies laws that preclude motorists from placing covers over their license plates but have no provisions for a clear spray.

Joe Scott, the marketing director for Photoblocker, said he knows of no jurisdictions that ban the spray. Most states have laws against obscuring or distorting license plates, but Photoblocker obscures the license plate only in a photo, Mr. Scott said, making it legal or at least difficult for police to detect with the naked eye.

Capt. John Lamb of the Denver Police Department said a test of the spray proved effective at producing a glare over the license plate.

The District, Maryland and Virginia all have laws permitting the use of red-light cameras, and the Federal Highway Administration says 21 states have red-light or speed-detection cameras in place or are considering installing the devices.

Lt. Patrick Burke of the Metropolitan Police Department said the spray isn't banned by any laws in the District, but he has yet to see a spray that is effective.

The spray might slip through a loophole in state law, said Steve Kholer, a spokesman for the California Highway Patrol, who said he had not heard of the product. Citations in California can cost up to $275.

If the spray becomes a problem, Mr. Kholer said, the law will catch up with it.

Critics of traffic cameras say the devices violate privacy and enforce unfairly.

Mr. Scott says use of the cameras constitutes entrapment.

"Decent folks - law-abiding citizens - are getting penalized left and right for clearing intersections a little too late, or entering and then backing up," he said, adding that one client reported being ticketed for a red-light violation when he was part of a police-escorted funeral procession.

He said thousands of cans of Photoblocker have been sold.

"The cameras were put in place just to raise revenue and not to make things safer," Mr. Scott said.

The District has collected $21.6 million in fines since August 1999 from its 39 red-light cameras. An additional $29 million has been collected from speed cameras since their installation in August 2001.

Roy Reyer, a former police officer, operates PhotoBuster.com, a Web site that distributes a product similar to Photoblocker called Photo Fog. He said anger with the "Big Brother attitude" of governments has fueled the innovation.

Clear license plate covers preceded the spray. They deflect light to make plates unreadable from the side and from above, but not from directly behind a car. Some jurisdictions that employ the camera-enforcement technology have banned these products.

That hasn't stopped Phantom Plate and other distributors from selling the covers. Clear Covers advertises them online as a "great way to protect your front license plate from dust, dirt and bugs."

In a game of innovation to stay ahead of traffic enforcement, the market has produced radar detectors and radar jammers - now banned in some states - as well as a license plate cover that deflects police radar.

Motorists aren't the only ones with clever tricks. Paradise Valley, Ariz., considered hiding its radar cameras in cactus plants along roadways, the Weekly Standard reported. Outrage from residents forced officials to reconsider.
 

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Lol i saw those license plate things for sale in the back of one of the magazines there like 200+ bucks i'd rather go to prison and drop the soap :lol:
 

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wow. You'd rather go to prison and be made somebody's "pincushion" than pay $200 bucks?! Why not just don't pay the $200, leave your license plate the same, drive fairly normally a majority of the time, and go on with your life? That sounds like the best option to me. ;-)
 

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I used to be vehemently opposed to such regulation at intersections, or anywhere for that matter. But after so many times nearly getting my little car smashed by red light runners, my attitude is changing. It's particularly annoying to get nearly crushed by moms in their SUV's toting kids. They buy the big vehicle to protect their family. And then disregard traffic signals and endanger yours. Make no sense. It's all about ME ME ME and what's MINE MINE MINE!

Sorry for the flame. I'm seeing this too much in my area. Fast growing mini metropolis outside Richmond. Accident frequency rising. I wouldn't even describe them as red light runners anymore. That implies you're trying to beat the light. These people act as though they simply don't care that their light changed to red 5-10 seconds ago and come strolling through the lane. That, more so than red light 'running', deserves the ticket and fine.
 

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I still think that for someone to be written a ticket for a moving violation, it should be done by an actual officer of the law. Those cameras cannot take into account extenuating circumstances. That alone is reasonable doubt.
 

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that pic is such a fake, seems that they photoshopped a white rectangle over the plates and didn't even bother to center it.
 

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I agree that actual officers should write the tickets out themselves. What do cameras do? you get a ticket in the mail from a photo that a robot took. I don't think that has the same kind of impact on the driver that being pulled over and ticketed does. Getting a ticket and paying a fine isn't supposed to be the point of law enforcement-its regulating the roadways so that they are safer to drive on. If some person feels like running a light and taking a chance on being photographed, they will. They will think "man, i really need to make it to this meeting on time. It's worth the $200 light running fee." The ticket becomes exactly that-a fee, not a punishment. With the negative reinforcement essentially gone, the laws are no longer there for the public good, they are now there simply to make money for the state. In the long run there could be rise in traffic violations. Hey, you're allowed to run lights and speed, after all, it's only money-it's not like they actually punish you.
 

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Robofunc said:
Getting a ticket and paying a fine isn't supposed to be the point of law enforcement-its regulating the roadways so that they are safer to drive on.... The ticket becomes exactly that-a fee, not a punishment. With the negative reinforcement essentially gone, the laws are no longer there for the public good, they are now there simply to make money for the state. In the long run there could be rise in traffic violations. Hey, you're allowed to run lights and speed, after all, it's only money-it's not like they actually punish you.
I totally agree with you. The DC area has raised over 40 million dollars in fines since they brought in the red light cameras and speed cameras.
 

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Looks like they sprayed the area around the license plate also.
Juggernaut said:
that pic is such a fake, seems that they photoshopped a white rectangle over the plates and didn't even bother to center it.
:roll: lmao. I noticed that before I even read your remark Juggernaut. I don't even think I could do a photoshop that bad...

The sad thing is that you KNOW someone would go to that much trouble to con a few bucks outta some unsuspecting speeders. :idea: If you don't want a ticket stay at or at most 5 over the speed limit. Is that really hard? :? (sometimes for a young idiot such as myself, yes) :wink:
 

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Well seein as how Arizona is the #1 state for Red Light Fatalities (Woo hoo we're #1, oh wait thats a bad thing) I agree with the Red light cameras. I don't care how you get cought running a red light you should be nailed for it. I am glad to report there has never been a red light death in the town I live in though (Queen Creek) due to the fact there are no red light in my town at all. The closest light to my house is 8 miles away. and I live on the northern outskirts of my town. (No I'm not a *******) Anyway, I do however 100% disagree with Speeding cameras. It is just another way for the city/state to get more money without having to pay a person to do their job. I don't see how people can get busted by a speeding camera out here though, because most of them are in full sized cargo vans that they park on the side of the road, or drive up on a curb. How can you not see that from a mile away??? People are idiots sometimes. Besides, I have never died from speeding, and I doubt I ever will, it's the suden stop that ensues due to the fact that you weren't paying attention to the cars around you that will get you killed. And if you think you can keep your eyes on the road enough to be a safe speeder you sure as hell should see the huge van with the big flash bulbs hanging off if down the road.
 

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I second on that the red light cameras are totally a bullshit plan... there was some article I read a while bac when they were in court about the cameras, that the companies who put the cameras out are not even set perfectly and regulated, and that they showed they are at the busy intersections, that have the SHORTEST yellow lights. Honestly... I think they should spend less time issuing tickets by a camera, that just snaps at every yellow and spend some more money putting cops(not in my area anyway) to catch the assholes passing people on the shoulders and grandma doin 35 on the freeway... ne wayz... i just wanted 2 elaborate my feelings... the cameras suck and its not makin it safer.. you're still gonna have the drunk flyin through red lights whether he gets a ticket or not!

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There are loads of anti-camera plates, sprays etc., in the UK. I don't believe that any of them work! Even if the were effective against the Gatsos, they would have no affect against the Truvelos anyway. If you don't want to get caught - don't speed.
 
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