[FourDiceS]

I just bought a escort 2 weeks ago 1991 escort gt.

I paid 1500$ for and it has only 130 000 km and had little rust on the side (that is now fixed). It only had one owner and he treat it like his girlfriend, he told me to always put syntetic oil in.

Anyway, since i got it I raced alot of cars, i even went to the 1/4 miles...
It was my second day driving manual and I did a 16.7 and it was 40 degrees outside. My friend got a ford focus and he does a 16.1 and that day he could´nt go down 17... So i guess i can go on the 16 flat on the 1/4 mile.

Anyway, i was impressed by the power this car has... I was on a red light the other night and i like it because where i live there alot of ginos in civics and cavaliers..

So i pull up to this guy he´s with a crazy ass chick (If i would of know that i would of win i would of bet on her girlfriend ) in a new cavalier z24...

So he looks at me (listening to sublime very loud) and i look at him and tell him in french, hey want to race, he says :Big, you got a escort, i dont even want to race you...

I tell him to not underestimate my 1500$ purchase... hehe

So it ended up me going at 140 and passing him like really easy... I tought that they had more power.

I also raced civic si, celica gt, 240 sx

that ended up behind me exept for the celica gt that was really close...

I wonder if the guy that had it before me did some mods because this car is fast, i mean fast for a 1500$ car...

Anyway i´ll try to post the video of me against the nissan 240sx. I beat him but he had 240 000 km on his engine...

Anyone want to give me some tips on where you shift. I usually shift at 6200 rpm after that there´s not alot of power so...

Im new to this forum so Cheers!!!

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[ Edited by FourDiceS04 On Date 08-05-2002 ]

 

[TheBlade]

First off, street racing is bad....just do it with no other traffic around. (yeah I know, I´m a hypocrit).

Anyhow, dont underestimate a civic si. My friend has an 89si and it whoops up on me by an easy second on the quarter (haven´t ran turbo yet at the track).

shift points: you´re motors power curve peaks at 5400rpms for torque, and 5600rpms for horse power.

I usually shift at 6100 rpms.

 

[Adam]

dude, i raced a del sol si and smoked his ass in second gear, by the time i hit third i had 2 car lengths on him
the earlier si´s only have 125 hp, not like the new ones with 160

they are only 1.6l SOHC engines and if you got beat by one there is something drastically wrong
but still 125 hp is really really good coming out of a 1.6
and dont try to tell me that the civic and del sol have different engines, cuz they dont

thats why they call it a civic del sol lol

 

[TheBlade]

Yeah, your right older Si´s have the D16 in them. But the Si hatchbacks (well my friend Carl´s) weighs in at 1900lbs with him, fuel, and engine fluids. My scort weighed in at Firebird last time at 2845. That was with a full tank, all fluids, myself and my friend Jamie in the car. I know I have a drastic amount of weight due to my rims, full exhaust, my subs, amps, and my spare 17" rim.

And remember a stock GT only puts about 125horse/114ft-lbs out.

Newer Si´s like in the Del Sol (Del Slo, like we call them ´round here). They use the B16A2, which is a DOHC, 1.6ltr motor. The B16A2 is not really more powerful....just more efficient. DOHC motors (including ours) usually are 75%-95% efficient. The B16´s are also VTEC, kinda like the VVT in the new Miata´s. Definately helps them out. And the killer part to them competing with us, even though we have a bigger motor, is they can rev higher. The rev limiter on my friends Del Sol is at 8100 (even though redline shows at 7k, he shifts at 7900).

Realize that competing with older D16´s isn´t hard...because we have efficiency and displacement on them...the part that kills us is weight. But new Honda´s can be very hard to compete with. (haven´t played against my friends 2002 1.7 VTEC yet), but I can take my roommates Turbo D16Y8 through three gears and that´s with him pushing 7.5lbs of boost.

 

[TheBlade]

Oh, almost forgot.

Civics HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS.

DX usually 1.5ltr Non-VTEC
LX usually 1.6ltr Non-VTEC
EX usually 1.6ltr VTEC (D16Y8 for 96 and newer)

Si 1.6ltr VTEC (B16A2 on newer ones)
Si´s aren´t found in 4 door configures,
only 2dr coupes, and hatches.
NOTE: Older Si´s 88-92 used the D16 Si motor. Its the same at the LX, except they used a different cam that gave them a little more lift.

Civic Del Sol IS a Si with the back seat
removed for a sportier appearance. The air box on them is actually a little difference, but you wouldn´t notice if they have an aftermarket intake.

Okay, little more Honda Revealed stuff:
The talk: Most Honda guys talk "B18"
The B18 they´re talking about is the B18C. The "C" in that is followed by a number refering to the generation of the motor, but its not important. The B18C is the Integra GS-R motor. It revs high and has a TON of potential. Like most Honda motors the ´B´ means its a DOHC engine. ´18´ being 1.8ltr etc.

Going above the Civic, to the Accord or Prelude...the motor of talk is usually the H22. I have no clue why its an ´H´, its not an opposing 4 like a subaru, its just an inline 4, 2.2ltr. They can put out some impressive numbers for power.

Okay, nuff Honda-School. Remember the thing to worry about are Engine Swaps. You can never tell what someone has done to their car until its too late...but for the most part, remember people are all talk.

Amost forgot* The new 2002 Civic EX uses a new 1.7ltr VTEC. My friend Justin only has 433 miles on his, so he hasn´t opened it up yet to see how hard it will push, but we´ll find out when he has about 1000 miles on it.
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Jason Blade
93´ Escort GT (Special SLO model)

[ Edited by TheBlade On Date 08-13-2002 ]

 

[FourDiceS]

Nice The_Blade, thanks for the info.

But remember, if the drivers sucks...

I usually race anything i can find in the streets, i mean anything, i race vans...
go ahead, laff, but some have alot of power

But anyway, even if i loose, i give them a thumbs up

 

[TheBlade]

Right on man...that´s the right spirit. You´re absolutely right, the driver makes the biggest difference.

Oh yeah...ever seen the mid 80´s dodge caravan run 12´s.....saw it once, would of never believed it.

 

[James92Scort]

Adam: 2000 Honda Civic SI´s have the B16A Engine, a 1.6L DOHC with VTEC, (Variable Timing and Electronic Lift Control). 2002 Honda Civic SI Hatchbacks have a 2.0L w/ 160 HP and VTEC. So basically they have a bigger engine and the same amount of HP. Plus Honda made these things ugly, even my brother thinks so. Pathetic, don´t you think? These cars are heavier than the 2nd Gen EGTs but they have at least 30 more horses, My brother owns one and for the life of me i "doubt" i could beat him, but he won´t race me. I´ve heard of SI´s doing anywhere from 7.2 to 7.9 second 0-60s and EGTs 8.1 to 8.9. It does depend on the driver, the shifter, and knowing your limits.
Hell, I´ve raced a 3.0L V6 Taurus GL and whooped it...although the 3.4L V8 Taurus SHO smoked me...and i mean badly. Those would take Civic SI´s.
i´ve raced numerous Neons and Cavalier Z24s which brings me to another point, just because the Z24 has a V6, doesn´t make it faster, in fact because it has a bigger engine, it weighs more. and the early 90s versions only have 140 HP and 180 LB Torque, which is a crappy power to weight ratio on the close to 3000 lb car. I hate Cavaliers and Neons. which is part of the reason i bought an Escort GT.

Red 92 EGT