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In need of a non leaking fuel tank !!!

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  1. Bullethead104

    Bullethead104 FEOA Member

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    I have a 95 two door LX and located in western mass, my fuel tank has been home to mice in the past. They made it their home with absorbent material and make a rest room. It rusted out the fuel sensor pump locking ring and surrounding area. So, I'm in the search of a unicorn that might be out there. Please let me know if there is any word of the unicorn.
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    Lots of good ones out here on the Wet Coast.
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    A little to far..... 20181207_132429.jpg
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    Although it's pretty rusty, if you get a new steel retainer ring, there's a good chance you can wire brush the rust off the other parts and reassemble. I apply oil to those parts when putting them back together which helps slow down the rust.

    The actual sealing part is the rubber ring under the fuel pump bracket, not the rusty mess visible.
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    denisond3 Moderator Staff Member

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    I think it might have been Joey_Twowagons who came up with a Ford part number for the plastic tanks. I then did a google search and found a wholesale seller who had several of them listed in inventory. I called them and ordered a tank, paying with a credit card, and got the new tank shipped by UPS in about ten days. Brand new. That was less than a year ago. I will look for that info; part number and seller.

    I bought an old used Escort fuel tank that looked about as rusty as the one in the photo. The tabs that hold the fuel pump down were completely rusted away. I have been thinking of drilling 4 holes into the tank, in a larger diameter than the steel ring, to accept screws to hold down a locking ring I would make up, to keep the fuel pump and sensor assembly clamped down. I would need to have some kind of a threaded support that fits inside the tamp for the screws to thread into.
    I sort of expect this "rusted tank ring" kind of thing to be getting more common.
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    I was wrong; it was not Joey_Twowagons. The info on a fuel tank source was from a member named Marvin who posted to an existing posting. The whole posting may be relevant; and its from Sep. 2017, when a member named danrohan needed a fuel tank for his Escort. The title of the posting is "Fuel Tank for 1995 Escort" It was in the subforum for the 2nd gen Escorts.

    The part number of the fuel tank was F8CZ-9002-GA. Although the F8 prefix indicates it was first used in 1998, I can attest it was identical to the old tank I took out of my 1991 Escort LX. The link to the company having a few of the tanks on hand was:

    https://www.vpartsinc.com/search?ma...F8CZ-9002-GA&x=12&y=20&searchMode=starts_with

    I think the tank cost me under $150. According to their website they still have several on hand. I may go and buy another one, just to have an extra spare.
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    Thanks Denisond3 I just went through the whole process and the shipping and cost was 141.00. Not bad. I only have one question you said you used this for a 91 and I have a 95 , will it fit? Is there a year range that the covers from what to what and includes the 95?
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    As far as I know, the 2nd gen fuel tanks are the same from 1991 through 1996 - and possibly later. The GT tanks are somehow different, and have a slightly different capacity.
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    It would be worth hanging onto the old tank just in case one of us thinks up a clever, simple fix for the rusty rings. It would not be easy though, since the ring is below the fuel level when the tank is filled, so has to be quite gasoline-tight.

    But the old tank can be stored under some bushes outdoors since it will last forever if the sun is kept off it.
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    ...And store the tank upside down, with something to keep rodents out of it.
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    Thanks All , It's nice to have this site to gain the knowledge and if there is a fix for the ring. I would like to know. My thoughts would be along the lines of cutting out the metal and replace it with plastic ring/sending unit and epoxy. What do you guys think?
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    My scheme was going to be to drill four holes into the tank, and work a chunk of steel in there, with captive nuts, for the screws to fit into. Then to have the screws hold down home made clamps to push the pump mechanism down. I would need to have another set of screws to hold the two arcs of steel in place inside the tank.

    But I wont get around to do that until next May, when I will be back in northern VA again; where the rusted tank sits in my workshop.

    My impression is that any expoxy would not stay bonded in place very long; but might serve to keep the threaded holes from seeping gasoline.
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    I would try to remove the steel only, without any alteration of the plastic. In my experience it is very difficult to bond anything to plastic.

    I don't have a tank handy to see how the steel is attached, but if it is difficult to remove the steel perhaps one could invert the tank in some hydrochloric (aka muriatic) acid to dissolve the steel away. A radiator shop might have a tank of this, but probably would charge a lot to do the job.

    Somehow arranging to seal the new fuel pump hanger assembly against the plastic using an O-ring might work.

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