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Hey everyone, I have a tough question to pose. Recently, my ignition switch has been acting up. When I first got the car in April, the "idiot" beeper always sounded when the door was open, even when the key wasn't in and the lights weren't on. It was very annoying, but I thought that it was just the way the Scort was. Recently though, I have found out that it is not so. Now it only sometimes does it, but with a new development, now sometimes when I try to start the car (or even shut it off for that matter), the key doesn't grab. I sometimes just turn on the radio and then can't turn it off. After I turn the key back and forth a few times, it finally works. I just worry that at some point, I won't be able to start the car, and I will have to return to you guys to see how to hot-wire a car. Any thoughts or ideas from anyone? Thanks guys.
 

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Da Switch :D

As long as your switch stops in the run position I can tell you the five second way to jump start your car.

I had mine go on me back in the winter. Fortunately, it broke in the start position making the car undrivable. :roll:

The best part was that the dealer was the only one who had the switch and they wanted $120 cdn.:protest:


Depending on your mechanical ability it will be around 45 minutes to replace.

Good Luck :D

Matt 8)
 

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I replaced the switch myself. The switch is a separate piece from the key tumbler assembly, so I still use the same key. That's why I was so upset about the cost. It was $120 for a stupid hunk of plastic that I know only cost Ford about $7 to make in the first place.

Matt :roll:
 

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Yes you could get one from a salvage yard. My personal opinion would be to go new, but a used one will work fine provided the used switch is in good condition. You don't have to pull the steering wheel, but you will need to drop the steering column. It's not very hard.

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What does the key look like........is the key wore down pretty good. I know that when get the oil cahnged in it or something fixed on it they never turn it off all the way because the key is wore and it can come out and they think they have it off and they don't. Just a suggestion.
 

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That's an interesting thought because I can pull the key out while it is running. Do you get the problem though where you can turn the key all the way to start and the key doesn't engage anything in the switch. I mean that the radio and dash lights don't even come on, just absolutely nothing. I can also feel that the key isn't grabbing anything because it turns freely.
 

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Well that key thing adds a new level to this problem. :scratch:

Sounds like you may have an issue with your tumbler assembly. That is a lot more work to deal with. I havn't had mine apart, but it looks like a pain in the :pottytrain2:

It's not too hard to change the tumblers, it's just getting it out of the lock barrel that looks like a pain.

You may also have a problem with the blade from the tumbler assembly not engaging with the ignition switch.

More Details Please :read2:

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Do you know if it is possible to get a whole new (and when I say new, I mean salvage) ignition switch and have it somehow have the pins matched to my key? This way I wouldn't have to worry about having separate keys for the ign. and doors.
 

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Yes it is possible. It would take a bit more work, not too too hard, but very possible. I've changed key configurations on other locks before.

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Mine is starting to act up (the door chime). I pulled the switch from the lock assembly last week and played around with it a bit... My switch is fine, but I fear my tumbler is just going to get bad. When that happens I'm going to install one of these:


I might make my own panel.. It would be cool to remove the ignition lock and put a nice big start button in it's place.

I will have my own method of security installed, of course.
 

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Yeh, I can take out my key while the car is running as well, it's kinda nice so I can still listen to the radio while the gf runs to get the mail or whatever. When I first bought the escort I would get the door chime when I took the key out, but that's only because I wasn't pushing the key in and turning it all the way off.

I'd like to set up a push button ignition as well, I'm thinking set up a keypad or something for an ignition code, something straight outa The Transporter :)
 

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I knew you'd ask if I was vauge enough 8)

RFID = Radio Frequency ID

Siemens Unlocks The Future Of Driving -- With A Card

RFID is already being used by GM, Ford, Honda, MB, BMW.. and several of other auto manufacturers for immobilization purposes. They all use a transponder in the key. The transponders are passive. Once they're hit with the RFID signal from the car they bounce back a code.. if the code matches the rolling code that the RFID device is expecting it kills the immobilizer and the car will start. Most of the factory ones are triggered once the key is inserted into the lock so that the RFID device isn't constantly searching for a transponder. It's because of this technology that the Honda Accord and Acura CL finally dropped off of the top spots on the most-stolen-cars lists.

As that article illustrates, you can carry a credit card sized transponder and not worry about keys (as long as your battery still has some juice in it).

Side note:
I work as a support tech in a library. In the next few years we're going to be upgrading our cataloging system to RDIF. Each book will have a transponder inserted into the spline or glued to an inside cover (they even make special transponders that go onto CDs). They just look like pieces of foil, but they each relay a unique serial number. This means that someday down the road a patron could pick up a book and as long as they have their library card (which would have it's own transponder) they'd only need to walk through the exit gates to check the book out. The computer would know from the numbers who left with what book. There are also scanners for shelves, so that you can tell the scanner what out-of-place book you're looking for and then walk down the shelves.. it'll beep when you come to the book. As you can imagine, this technology revolutionizes the library world. :D

NYC area toll roads are already using the same technology to collect tolls from drivers. As the cars drive by the toll center at speed they have their accounts charged for the toll. It helps to reduce traffic congestion at the toll centers. I think the programs are already being implemented across the US right now. You might have heard of the ID chip that can be perminantly injected into your flesh (usually in your arm or leg) for the purpose of IDing you for medical purposes. It uses the same RFID technology.

So, try to remember that acronym, you're likely to hear a lot more about it's uses in the next few years.
 
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