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i got adapter to input thru cassette...

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  1. gimpel

    gimpel FEOA Member

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    I had to make it short in the 'subject' (above) to fit...

    I MAY want to upgrade the audio sysem later...

    for now... I got the factory install radio/tape player...

    i dont want to risk breaking the tape player, by actually loading tapes into it...

    so i bought one of the things that looks like a tape cassette, and has a cable running off of it, which you load into the tape deck, and it is supposed to play, thru the tape player, whatever 'media delivery device' you plug into the other end...

    my Prob is, that when i push the 'cassette' into the slot, it switches to 'tape mode', seeks side one, seeks side two, seeks side 1, seeks side 2, and then ejects...

    do i need to stuff a bit of cotton into the cassette, or wrap a piece of tape over it, to get the tape player to accept it, eh?...

    regards....

    gimpel
  2. neuspeedescort

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    its been so long since i used one of those i am not sure what you deck is doing. have you tried to use real tapes?


    NEUMAN
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    It's almost 2011....nuff said
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    I also use a cassette adaptor for my Escort to play my ipod. There is usually a protective piece of plastic on the metal head that needs to be removed for it to play...



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  5. gimpel

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    NEUMAN... I have not yet tried an actual tape cassette in the unit... i will do that tomorrow, and I expect it will work... thx...

    race... was your comment directed to NEUMAN or to me?... I dont WANT to upgrade the unit... (mebe in a year... ) I want to be able to input whatever input device i choose, whether tape cassette, CD, mp3 player, or laptop computer, through the device, and the 'stock' radio/tape unit... even though it is the 'new millenium' i am not going to throw out, and stop enjoying, my 100's of cassette tapes and vinyl, because 'some' consider it to be 'obsolete'... [do you know that vinyl has been making a 'comeback' in the last few years?... ]

    the deck is 'doing', NEUMAN, just what i said in the first post... it is rejecting the device as a valid cassette...

    August... my device is the same, except with the RCA name on it... if it had a protective piece of plastic, there is not one now, so that is not the problem...

    a friend suggested that he 'thinks' the tape deck is looking for an actual magnetic tape in order to validate the device... I think he is wrong...

    I believe the tape deck has a sensor, or maybe more, to detect either a stuck or a broken tape... it makes sense that sensor could be placed on either the moter or the capstan wheels (to detect motion), or a pressure sensitive switch inserted into the channel where the tape flows through the mechanism to detect either a broken or stuck tape...

    my original question, which i ask again, is whether a piece of a cotton ball stuffed into one of the openings on the cassette device, or a piece of electrical tape stretched across same opening, would trick the tape deck into believing that it is a valid tape cassette...

    eh?...

    regards... g.
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    what i was saying it im stumped as to what the tape deck is thinking.

    as for universal input. almost every deck on the market has one of two things. right/left aux in or a USB 2.0 adapter off the back. both options you can go to any radio shack and buy an adapter to go from that to a 1/8" aux plug aka: headphone jack.


    NEUMAN
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    I've used one of these adaptors too with the same problem at times, but I can usually get it to accept the adaptor with a few tries. I'm not sure but I think the cord going into the adaptor may hold it at such an angle the player doesn't recognize the adaptor. I've had to bend the cord pretty sharp in order to get it to accept it. My car is a '97 so when you install a cassette the cassette drops down into the player instead of going straight in and out. That's where I've bent the cord to try to give it a 90* upward bend. Be careful bending on it though those wires are probably pretty fragile.
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    Had a similar problem but it would work for about 20 seconds and then it would reverse itself and then forward again...so my music would go out. So I thought it was broken so I bought another...Well that didn't work either..so I just went ahead and got a new stereo with audio input lol
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    NEUMAN... 'almost every deck on the market' TODAY has an aux or usb input... thx for your response... I am staying with the stock 'old school' device for now, which means i need to make this work...

    Fman... yeh, mine drops down inside, too, without any problem because of the cord... there is at least five, and maybe six or seven or eight wires inside that thing, so you do have to be careful about bending the cord...

    Skeets... i did some work inside the adapter, and then mine did the same thing... would play for about 20 seconds, cut out for the same, come back in, and back out... in and out... cant enjoy music that way...

    I FOUND the solution, tho i havent implemented it yet...

    I opened the adapter unit... remove five small phillips head screws from the unit, then turn it over before pulling the 'now' top half off...

    see pic...

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    this is more complex than an empty cassette shell with a read head... the rubber drive wheel from the deck ( the 'pinch roller' i think it is called) inserts into the cassette when you push it into the deck...

    take the head (the shiny silver box) in the pic above as the center... the pinch roller turns the rubber banded pulley at 7 oclock, which turns the half dozen plastic gears to move the capstans at the feed and takeup in the deck to fool it into thinking a tape is actually moving thru the cassette...

    the small pulley wheel at 5 oclock was mounted on the wrong post in my unit... once i put it in its proper place (where it is in the pic) than all of the gears turned, and i got improved but still faulty function...

    the large gear at 3 oclock has a post mounted on an eccentric, which does nothing in my unit... it seems to me that it is intended to drive another assy which is entirely missing from mine... not sure what it looks like, or what it does, but it is evident it is missing... and necessary... there are a bunch of empty posts in my unit which shud probably have gears, armatures, whatever... must have been a new, careless, or 'dint giv a shit' employee put this one together...

    'MADE IN CHINA'... yeh, i am getting P*ssed off at China... owns most of our nations debt, and most of the stuff we buy, we buy from them... look for my post soon in 'off topic' about 'P*issed off at China'...


    so, the ANSWER is... i gotta replace the adapter unit... i gotta wait for another paycheck to do it. the unit itself is faulty, which is why it didnt work in my prev vehicle either...

    as the guys from 'bartles and james' wine coolers used to say... 'thank you for your support...

    regards... g.
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    Old thread I know but my problem is that the tape adapter audio only plays through the passenger side speakers, and weakly at that.

    I don't have any real tapes to try but I have three adapters and they all do it.

    The FM stereo sounds strong and clear (for what it is).

    My adapters also work fine in the Navigator's tape deck.

    I'm like OP in that I don't like aftermarket radios anymore. I like stock. I can't really explain why; I just do.
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    Super old thread but I use an FM transmitter that plugs into my android. I don't have cassette with my stock radio FM/AM only. Works fairly well too.
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    the azimouth needs adjusted on your factory stereo. that means the read head on the cassette player.
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    pextor Moderator Staff Member

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    I upgrade every stereo in every escort I own to a CD player with a USB jack so I can listen to my music. I put the factory stereo back in before I sell it.
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    Lol.

    I think I'm allergic to aftermarket head units.

    J/K. I had one stolen years ago and just haven't been into them ever since.

    I used the tape adapter and eventually just listened to FM as my commute dwindled down to just a few minutes a day.
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    That is one awesome mod. I will be doing this ASAP! Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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    My '97 does exactly this as well... I was using an FM transmitter and found a Sony cassette adapter while going through some old stuff. Figured I'd give it a shot thinking it would sound better than the transmitter.

    Luckily, in the box where I found the adapter were a few cassette tapes, so I'm listening to some old school lately lol.
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    I use the cassette adapter on my smartphone as Bluetooth.
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    I find having the cassette adapter option is better than the cars that have just a CD player and radio. The last year I had my 2001 Elantra the cassette player would do the dance flipping sides cutting out etc that has been described in this thread. It was pretty annoying when I was listening to an audiobook or podcast. My 91 Pony tape deck seems to work great at least with the adapter so that was another small upgrade. I do have a good name brand FM transmitor or that works very well with the older Apple charging cords. It's great because it charges and plays the music audio. If I ended up driving a lot more in my escort so would probably leave an old smart phone in there for navigation and entertainment.
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    Had a similar problem but it would work for about 20 seconds and then it would reverse itself and then forward again...so my music would go out. So I thought it was broken so I bought another...Well that didn't work either..so I just went ahead and got a new stereo with audio input lol

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