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Hi People,

How are you guys doing ?

As some of you guys know i'm working on a custom bumper and i'd like to place the turn signal blinkers else where...like on the front of the bumper itself where the original blinkers of the geo metro used to be. Then I would take off my tracer corners and close the gap with a nicely shaped and welded piece of metal.

But then...if if i remove my corners, and put my blinkers on the front of the bumper, i need to have side blinkers somewhere on my fender as for legal purpose...so far everything is ok since i can grab some side markers at the junker...

But my question is how would i give power to the 4 blinkers ?

I really don't know much about electronic and such...but could I splice the wires in 2 and then add enought lenght of wire to feed both blinkers on each half of the car ? Or wouldn't this work caus then i'd have two bulbs draining more power through the original wire ?

Any info would be nice... tanks for you inputs.
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tanks, i really can't wait to see it painted black...hopefully i'll shoot the primer tommorrow if everything goes well with the fiberglass . I still need to smooth everything with 150 grit...and then 220 .
 

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Electronikal said:
lol why would it take 10 pages :p its a pretty simple question isn't it?
.. well, on ERDT there was a thread...... :roll:

Matt 8)
 

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NO EFFIN WAY!... dude im working on my bumper right now, im using a vdub front bumper light and i was trying to keep it top secret and now someone else had to go and get the same idea and tell the board :( good luck and i cannot wait to see pics to see what im spending all this time on.

this is just like 545hpgt guy on erdt like me and my cousin were talking about how cool it would be to run a miata setup and have a rwd scort then like litterally a week later 545 is like "well i was bored so i tossed around ideas and now im going rwd" its like no way in hell thats like an idea thats never brought up then a week after we think about it someone with alot more money and time than me thinks about it and starts :(

p.s. im not hating or anything dont get the wrong impression on my post, for real good luck and i cannot wait to see what it looks like.
 

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The side lights have to be parking lights too. You must have amber light on the side for running. What many cars do is have an 1157 or 2357(2 filament) for the front facing light and just a 194 for a side marker, then have the side marker alternate from the front's blinker(that is to say, the turn signal or hazard alternates from fron to side when the lights are on, but blink in unison when the lights are off). The wiring isn't too hard. I can figure it out and email you a diagram. Also, In the US you don't have to have blinkers on the side, just running lights, so you could just connect the side light to the front's parking light portion and be done with it. In Europe and Asia you do need turn signals on the side. My Saturn had the non blinking sides and I converted them to alternating with the front's blinkers for extra safety, the same way my Lumina came from the factory. let me know what you want.
 

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well....i don't know how would it look if the blinkers where alternating on each other.... i'd have to try it.

And as for what I want, i want both front and side to be turn signals, so they would both have to flash....in unisson or not....i guess i'll go the easy way..... which setup would be the easiest to do ? and what does the alternating setup implies ? i really am open to ideas.

thanks Mad brad and all the others for your comments and replies....

and Fordboy4ever, im sorry we had the same idea but i've been planning this customisation for over 3 months now :p

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i just finally picked up a gt bumper after lookin for a month or two. whatever you do you need to get it done quick... if i cannot be the first i want to at least see it asap! :)

also the EASIEST way to wire in the turn signals is to just splice into the lines. and run them where you want them to go.
 

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Electronikal said:
well....i don't know how would it look if the blinkers where alternating on each other.... i'd have to try it.
Most cars do this from the factory, especially GMs(except my Saturn)
I'll restate:
In the US the side marker doesn't need to be a turn signal but it has to at least be a parking light. GM does it like so:
the front is a 2 filament bulb(1157 or 2357) with the smaller filament being the parking light and the brighter filament being the turn signal. Same as the Escort, but since the Escort's can be seen from the side there's no additional side marker.
If the front can't be seen from the side, there is a marker light on the side that is just a 194 bulb. You can just connect that to the parking light filament of the front light, and it would be legal but will be only a parking light. Don't connect it to the turn signal filament of the front light because then it would only be a turn signal and it would not be on with the parking lights, which is illegal.
If you want the side marker to be a turn signal too, there is a fancy way of connecting it to the front light so it is both a parking light and a turn signal. Since there's just one filament in a 194, and it is on with the parking lights, the only way it can flash is by going out when the turn signal filament in the front light is on, therefor alternating with the fronts.
when the lights are off, then they flash in unison.
Just make sure you wire the fronts EXACTLY as they were in the factory setup. I can send you the fancy wiring diagram, it's not hard.

But wait!!
having said that, I just realized the 2nd gen Escort has unique wiring that means you don't need to do all that. they wired it so the parking filament goes out when the turn signal filament is on. It's hard to tell because they are in the same bulb. It's the only car I've seen that does that. So you're in luck. All you need to do is connect your side marker to the parking light filament of the front light and it will be a parking light and magically flash alternating with the front.
That means all the stuff I said before and even in the first part of this post was unnecessary :oops: . But I will leave it there as solid background material.
 

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i made a single relay function my sidemarker for both parking and blinker with a single filament bulb.

in your case, it's VERY simple, the bumper light would use the OEM wiring, the sidemarker would use some added wiring and the relay (1 per side)

if you want, i can draw out the relay/wiring diagram for you.

<edit> duh...forgot about my how-to...

http://www.mazdaracer.clubprotege.com/SIDEMARKERS.html
 

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MazdaRacer said:
i made a single relay function my sidemarker for both parking and blinker with a single filament bulb.

in your case, it's VERY simple, the bumper light would use the OEM wiring, the sidemarker would use some added wiring and the relay (1 per side)

if you want, i can draw out the relay/wiring diagram for you.

<edit> duh...forgot about my how-to...

http://www.mazdaracer.clubprotege.com/SIDEMARKERS.html
There's no need for relays to get the sidemarker to alternate, and I'm not talking about the escort, I'm talking about any car at all. The "fancy" wiring I was ralking about doesn't involve relays. It involves switching a couple of wires around BTW exactly copying the factory method.
 

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Seriously not trying to nitpick spelling, but are you trying to make the Escort wagon into a Hearse, like a funeral home would transport a body in? I think the bumper looks cool, by the way.
 
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