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How To Change a fuel pump / fix a car that dies on corners

Discussion in 'How-To's' started by fixitmattman, Mar 6, 2005.

  1. Brad

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    I just wish the pics would load for me.Is there any way you could save the pics and email them to me?[email protected] Thanks
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    Unfortunately I do no know of anyways to retrieve the pics. I think they were around before the Forum software change in March 2013. Another member may have them, but other than that they are gone.
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    Ok thanks anyways.
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    I did the pulsator mod... Couldn't get the strainer off at all but worked around it. Here's some new pics
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    Thanks for the info on changing the fuel pump and modification for "dies on corners". My 1997 Escort just started dying on corners. I have replaced the fuel pump which (the new model) seems to have the hose modification already (no pulsator thingy). However, I cannot see your pictures so I cannot be sure I am looking at the right thing. It still dies turning right (how can it be a design flaw if it just started doing this ... 184,o00 miles)?
    Elsewhere I saw your explanation of how to jump out the fuel cutoff switch. I am suspecting this now because I have changed about 6 other components with no luck. Also, it is a turning problem so if this is faulty it might think that turning (right) is the same thing as flipping upside down, therefore cutting power to the fuel pump).
    Anyway, you said to short/jump the black and black/pink wires. I have black/pink, blue, and green/red (slightly thinner than the other two). Which two should I jump/short so I can test if this switch is causing the problem (and if it is, I will replace the switch).
    Thanks!
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    old thread but my EGT have same problem thanks a lot for pics
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    After replacing my fuel pump and strainer I started to have much worse stalling in corners. I suspected that it could be due to the new filter sock, which is different from the original design.

    I disconnected the fuel line at the top of the filter and put a vinyl hose onto it, leading to a five gallon pail. Then I grounded the fuel pump relay at the diagnostic connector and turned on the ignition to cause the pump to run constantly, emptying the fuel tank into a couple of pails.

    As soon as I started seeing bubbles and foam in the vinyl tube I turned off the ignition to stop the pumping. Then I removed the fuel pump and swapped the old filter sock back onto it and reinstalled. Repeating the pumping out process, I got another two US gallons or so of gasoline.

    What appears to be happening is that the pump starts sucking air as soon as the topmost part of the sock is above the fuel level, as it is easier to suck air than suck liquid.

    Here's an image of the faulty filter sock:
    IMG_2444 (Small).JPG

    Yes, it's dirty but the fuel flow was still high when I was pumping out.

    Here's the extra fuel that came out after I reinstalled the old original type filter:

    IMG_2443 (Small).JPG

    By the way, the filter socks clean up really easily by letting them dry in the sun and then cleaning them with soap and water, or even better, oven cleaner and water.
    Of course let it dry again before reuse.
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    Matt, for some reason, I can't see any of the pics posted.
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    Here's the image of the way to short the diagnostic connector to ground to make the pump run:

    Tire changing, Escort fuel tank emptying 023.JPG
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    Thank you but the fuel pump is working. It won't start after I turn right with any speed.
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    Rafael D. fixser

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    The definitive solution for fuel pressure problems while cornering and/or less than half the tank strainer.jpg
    BRUTE POWER part number 1060054 for just $2.87, the only strainer that includes the sealing o-ring, other 5 are worthless
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    I never saw an O-ring on any filter sock, even presumably original equipment ones.
    Thinking about it, it would seem to be important to have one, or else the pump will start sucking air as soon as the fuel level drops below the top of the attaching metal ring, right?

    I'll see if a standard size Viton O-ring will fit my filter, and next time I order from Rockauto I'll see about getting the "Brute Power" sock. I'm curious to see if the OEM type sock has a groove to fit the O-ring.
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    I haven't seen the original sock/strainer but after trying everything possible (including a couple of o-rings) this one is the only thing that solves the problem of sucking air
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    Five dollar fuel pump 113.JPG Five dollar fuel pump 114.JPG Well my almost 30 year old junkyard fuel pump gave up the ghost so I swapped in one of these $5 ebay beauties:

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    I install the "rubber" seals in the pulsation dampener, but not the clips. A bit of O-ring lube (or any light grease, thick oil etc.) on the piping allows the rubber seal to slide up far enough so that the pump can be installed in the hanger.

    Five dollar fuel pump 113.JPG

    I should have posted this first, but I tie (or wire) up the fuel lines to keep some of the fuel from draining out.


    Five dollar fuel pump 113.JPG

    I should have posted this first, but I tie (or wire) up the fuel lines to keep some of the fuel from draining out.

    You may ask if a $5 fuel pump is likely to work for very long. Well just in case, I bought two! I am keen to see how long this pump does work. It does the job fine now, maintaining sufficient fuel pressure and a smooth, non-pulsating pressure.
    I'll keep the spare pump in the car with my small tool set.
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2019
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    Sorry about the previous post, the cursed technology is adding and removing and doubling my images at random.
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    My 91 GT also has this problem. The additional problem is that I won't be able to start it again until the car cools down (think 2 1/2 to 3 hours minimum). It will turn over freely but won't vroom vroom, so I just end up killing the battery trying to get it to start again. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?
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    be best to create a separate post in the 2nd gen gt sub forum. this thread goes back to 2014.
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    Since the thread's been exhumed...

    Update on my sub $5 fuel pump, it's still going fine.

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