Wow look at how the senior FEOA members are treated. One person thinks Marclar should be fertilizing daisies and another thinks McPh3rson should be committed to a sanitarium over his employment decision. Who's FCA? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles Oh. Taking apart half the car for even simple maintenance items seems to be the going standard now... though there is such a thing as ridiculous. Did you mean sympathy vs pity ?