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I was driving home from Downtown Detroit this afternoon, and there were a LOT of construction barrells along the shoulder because the construction had finished, and they hadn't taken the barrels yet. Well I'm in the left lane doing about 70 and there's no one behind me, one car in front of me, and a huge ass semi to my right.

The car in front of me suddenly swerved right and kept going.... well one of the barrels on the left had tipped over and was rolling into the left lane. I swerved HARD to avoid it, and I think I ended up oversteering when I was trying to miss it. Well, my car started swerving left and right.... bad. I couldn't get control of it, and so instead of getting it caught under the wheels of a semi, I hit the brakes and took my chances with the cement wall on the left.

I hit it on the drivers side, fish tailed, and ended up looking dead on at the wall. My (brand fucking new, due to me being rear ended and hitting a car in front of me about 5 months ago) front bumper is crooked, scraped to the primer, sideways, and basically shot to hell. Somehow, both of my quarter panels are beat to hell, and my hood brackets got all messed up so that the hood is sitting crooked. My passengers side door won't open because the quarter panels were bent back, and the bar that holds the headlight brackets/grill is bent. Other than that, the rest of it is copacetic.

Now... I have a few options, and I need your help. Although it has 120k on it, it still runs strong and fast. It's got a new timing belt, ACT clutch with less than 500 miles on it, new wires, alternator, ect. Well... I can either:

1. Report it to the insurance company. Pay a $500 deductable, plus some ungodly rate hike, and get my car fixed.

2. Buy Z3 fenders. Buy the Onderground front bumper. Spend about 500 bux and get it all done in my autoshop class.

3. Keep it in my yard. Part it out. Discard. :(

4. (This seems most appealing right now) Let the insurance total it. If they offer me enough money, I'll do that. That way, I can sell my rims (Which I've had less than a month, and I paid off the $480 for the tires YESTERDAY), sell both of my LCD's, my amp, subs, and with a small loan from my credit union (like 1000-1500 bux) buy a newer car.

As much as I love my car, and as much fun as it is to drive (I doubt I'll find a car that's more fun to drive, unless it's over $50,000), I'm tired of it. I'm tired of hearing a new noise every week, and having to spend $500 bucks a month on it just to keep it running. I don't like having to explain to people why my exhaust is so loud or why my A/C doesn't work, or why my grey interior has a layer of dirt on it that will NEVER come out. The car's way small for me to even have 4 people in it, let alone 5, and the thing I hate the most about it; It rattles like hell. No matter what, there is always something in that car that has to make noise when I drive it. And I hunt it out and fix it, and the next day, there are two noises.

All in all, I'm just tired of the hassle. As much as I love owning an Escort with balls, and driving a different type of street machine than everyone else, the hassle just doesn't seem worth it anymore. I love that car, and not even a Viper or a Skyline could replace the memories that I've made in that car, or all the fun I've had driving it. But alas... I feel like it's time for a change.

What do you guys/gals think I should do about this situation?
 

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Do what you won't regret. I bought a new car, and now I'm in debt. but I don't regret it, because I'm FINALLY getting some respect from my coworkers and everyone that see's my car.

I loved my Escort too. I know it's going into good hands now though.

I'd personally just total it if they gave me enough money, but then again parting it might net you more cash for a new car.
 

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Screw respect. If people dont respect you because you drive a certain type of car, then you dont need those freinds anyway. If you like the car, fix it. It will be paid for and youll be happy with it. If youve always wanted something different, then shoot for that. Do what makes YOU happy, not anyone else.
Now, look for the parts. The parts are the cheap part. Getting the shit painted is what you should worry about, unless your a guru with the gun. I'll get you a link to some parts here in a bit, factory replacements arent that bad. A hood for the car is only around 93 bucks, but painting it is where the money comes in. If you have some money to spend, then get what you want for the car, if its the body kit or what have you. The Escort is by far, the number one most reliable car Ive ever owned in my life, therefore its worth the money to keep it going. If you trade it in or buy a new car, your going to get screwed out of a certain amount of money; at least as much as it would take to fix your Escort. The question is, what can you afford to do today? I would like to think that you get that body work done up for abuot 2500 bucks if you found the right people to help you out. I just shipped a 94 EGT off to the junkyard and I didnt even get enough money out of it to buy me a new set of tires for the 93 EGT.
Your never going to get what the car is worth from a dealer on trade in because theyll get their money in the contract on the new car. No matter how much they say they will give you for it, their going to get their money one way or another. Car dealers DO NOT give away money unless they can get it somewhere else in the same transaction. Thats buisiness. If your car is clean and in good shape, sell it yourself, youll do much better. Youll get 2000 more out of it by selling it yourself and you can probably get your repair costs out of it easily. Remember, the book value is really low on the EGTs anymore and you can get into a new car and still keep the EGT without trading it in for almost no penalty to you.
I'll never trade in my EGT and to me, its worth the money to keep it. Its reliable and fun, and it beats any other car projects Ive had hands down as far as cost and time.

Just see what you have to work with and if you decide to get a new car, try to do it and keep the EGT too...Ill bet you wont get a better deal by trading it in. Parting it out is an option, but the car is probably much more valuable to you in one piece than it is in time and space while you try to find buyers for parts. Good luck..Hope to keep you in the club!
 

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hum... just an advice,... if you tell your assurance,...you will probably pay more on the next car that you bought.

See if the frame of the car is not twisted or something like that. One of friend had someone hit him in the back... the rear bumper just have some mark in hit... when he went to the garage,... the frame was twisted!!!

Go in a junkyard and buy the part that you need. Try reparing the stuff broken by yourself. If you miss your job...bah... it was already scrap !!!

Personnaly... I wouldn't report it to the assurance because it will affect you the rest of your life.

Poor scort... do you have some pic?!
 

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From what I read of your report, looks like you've experienced what there is to experience of escorts and its time for you to move on. This is the perfect opportunity for you to move on too.

You have to count your lucky straws that your insurance didn't find out about this accident. If they did your premiums would go up high, even for your next car. Trust me, I've been there done that. Many times ;)

So why I suggest is take all your valuables about of your escort, sell it for parts and forget about it.

And you are right. An 2nd gen escort is not a well made car. Its full of creeks, the dash gets tarnished, etc, etc. I've spent over $35,000 on my escort and it still feels like I'm getting into a cheap car every time I'm getting into it. People complain when they get into my car.

But of course I love my car.

I'm just saying to you, this is your ticket out. USE IT.

Get a nice car that is 1 year old with 15,000 miles on it. Then you'll be happy. Don't buy a new car, that's a waste of money. Even Dr. Phil will contest to this.

Phone call. I have to go. Just consider what I said. I'm trying to genuine with you and help you.

cheers. :wink:
 

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Well said Dirty Jim!! ...... and sue the blasted road construction company for not keeping their barrels off the carriageway!! :twisted:
 

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i dunno but its a shot in the dark.... i always try to look for the best outta every thing..... i would try to sue :lol: someone about those barrels left behind that caused the accident............. have you thought about that? second i got dips on sideskirts and the lcd's if u decide to junk the car..... :D
 

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Dirty Jim. it's not my friends. it's my family, my coworkers and people whom I respect.

I used to get no respect because I was the laziest bastard in all of New haven. I had no job until I was 17. and even then I worked very little.

I got sick of being made fun of. I had two 40 hour jobs once. I did it for the respect AND the money. Both were amazing, everyone gave me respect. showed some sympathy when I was tired for a change.

Now I finally have a nice car which I like, and now no one can make fun of it. Not my dad, not my brother (who used to have an 00 SI), not anyone.

Saying "screw you" to people I care about isn't an option. Working two jobs and making lots of money and driving something I want IS...

But the rest of what you said I agree with :p
 

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i don't know what insurance you have. but i have AAA and if the cost to repair the car is more than what the car is worth, the insurance company will not pay to fix it. you can however, sell the car to the insurance company, buy it back, and then pay to fix it yourself. trust me, they seem to find the lowest price in the books for your car so being a damaged escort, it probably doesn't take much to go over what it's worth in repair costs.

but again, this is AAA and i dunno what company you have and what their policy is. but whatever ya do, do what you want to do. if you want to get a new car, go for it. if you wanna fix it up, then do it.
 

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Dayum.. that sux pretty bad bout the accident.. but seriously u should go for the damn construction crap.... it isnt your fault u got in the accident, and thats their shit thats rolling around on the roads.... and becase of them your car got fucked up.. i'd get those lazy bastards... that isn't fair to you... or anyone else who it might have happened to.. i'd make a report..., just don't tell ur insurrance till u get some $$ or sumthin... and if u decide to depart from your escort... let the power be with you.... but i do want to remind everyone.. after 100K miles.. every car gets creaks and things fall apart.. its a man made machine.. and i've seen civics and whatnot just as bad as escorts.. they're all economy cars that we try and make better.. but most people grow with their cars.. I truely think I will NEVER sell my escort... it was the first car I ever drove... and I have memories.. and many more to go.. whether it breaks down every day or not.. ya gotta replace ur entire car after awhile.. whether u drive a skyline, a camaro, a civic, or a scort.... they all start breaking down one day.. I just hope u really think about it before u depart from your scort... ne wayz... i got a tear in my eye over that... haha :lol:

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Well.. I know here in NC that if something like that happens, I can get reimbursed from the state because it was the fault of their construction equipment. (you can even get reimbursed for having tar thrown onto the finish of your car from fresh pavement) Michigan probably has the same laws, and if you'd stayed at the scene of the incident and called the police to fill out a report, then you may have gotten a nice check from the MDOT (there's a lot of paperwork I'm sure). At this point.. you banged up your car and all the insurance company can assume is that it's because you're a wreckless driver and your premiums will skyrocket. Don't ever leave the scene of an accident (even a 1 car accident) unless you're ready to pay the repair costs by yourself.

Repairs, maybe... New car, up to you... insurance, too late.
 

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I get respect from the folks at my car club's autocrosses. When they snicker at you for pulling up to the line with an excort wagon and then you spank the time they made in their 300zx and your best friend is standing there to rub it in their faces for you... they learn respect. :D People who snicker at me because I'm slow in a straight line can snicker all they want.. they don't know what driving is IMHO.
 

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I've had many accidents like this. The 20 year old guys in front of me didn't check their blind spot and were about to come smashing into me. I steered to avoid them excep there was a some snow on the ground and we were all doing 115 km/h... in moderate traffic.

I was in the third lane....

I realized I was heading for the concrete barricade. So I corrected, but in snow it was overcorreted; the back end flipped out (in a heavy 95 passat glx), and I went across 3 lanes of traffic, missing every; car over a ditch, drove down the ditch at ca. 110 km/h; then the car rolled about 2 time. I ended landing on my head in the car.

Now who's fault was that? I didn't hit a single car?

It was my fault!!!

For overcorrecting. It was a single car accident. Single car accident!

I should have just sat there and let the f**king m***erF**kers hit me. It would have done less damage to my car and his insurane would have covered everything.

As long as you stay in your lane you're fine. Whatever comes into your lane is, its problem.

But again, I don't think you should keep your escort unless its cheaper to fix than half the value of the car; or cheap.

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Hrrrmmm...

Well... first off, thanks to everyone that replied. I gotta get this straightened out. Sigh..

Sorry 93lxsleepa... a kid in auto shop this morning offered me 200 bux for my 7'' LCD in my dash. I only paid 116... shipped. :) So that one is gone. But I do still have my 5.6'' power acoustik lcd. It was $156 new. I'll sell it for 90, but only because the outside of it is all banged up, and the new casing for them is like 28 bucks. I'm also selling my rims. 2003 Finn 17'' 7 spoke alloys with BF Goodrich Schorcher tires. Blue stripes on the tires, blue center caps on the rims. The tires have less than 300 miles on them, as do the rims, and neither have any damage. They're mint. I paid 600 for the rims, and 480 for the tires, but I'll probally let the whole deal go for like 900-1000 bux or so. Reply if you're interested... I'll ship 'em.


Also,I didn't leave the scene of the accident. I couldn't. The car wouldn't start. I had the clutch down when I hit, and I bent the cut-off switch that it has under the clutch so it wouldn't start. I filed a police report, and just today, I got some forms that I can fill out that may very well make it so that MDOT pays for the insurance premium, and that my rates don't go up. I still have to drudge through all the paperwork, but we'll see.

As much as I LOVE (and I can't use that word enough for my car) my Escort, like I said, it's time for me to move on. I want a newer car with less hassle and more room. I'm gonna miss the look on people's faces at the next light when they realize that they just got dusted by an Escort, or that feeling of being the unsuspected under doggie, and showing people how solid Mazda's engines really are. I'm gonna miss driving the damn car... god do I love that feeling. Of all the cars I've driven, the Escort is just so damn fun... something about it.... sigh.

I've got AAA, and I have to work out that MDOT complaint and all that stuff before I register the accident, but still... they're an insurance company.. they'll find some way to bend me over.

Anyway... I've done a lot of thinking, research, and looking, and I've narrowed it down.

1. 1994 Acura Integra LS. Red exterior, black interior. 5 speed. It's in great shape, and it's only got 6500 miles on it. $2500 The only challenge is bringing myself to drive an Acura. :roll:

2. 1995 Jetta III GLS. Don't know the mileage, but it's black on black, extra clean, 5speed, moon roof, power windows/locks/moonroof, and it's got heated power adjustable seats. $2900

3. 1999 Chevy Malibu. Black exterior, tan interior. Tinted windows. Power EVERYTHING. Fully loaded. Heated leather seats. Moonroof. 72000 miles. Very clean. $3500


I really REALLY want the Malibu, just because those cars are so goddamned nice, but I think I may end up with the Jetta (depending on mileage, of course)


Any other suggestions? Thanks for all the help!
 

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Don't get an integra LS. If you're getting an Integra, get a GSR; it makes a big difference. And if I were in your position, I would take a loan and buy something newer. Like 96 or 97 GSR.

The main point I'm making is don't get an LS.
 

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My suggestion... no integra, you'll just be the same as EVERYONE else. You dont wanna be like everyone else. you wanna go with something else that you put your heart into to be different. everyone knows that honda parts are basically interchangeable or damn close to it ... the jetta would be a good choice its not overly hard to fix up but it does take some thought and creativity.The malibu is where you might run into the same trouble you had with the escort . while they do have body kits i havent seen to many preformance parts. also another choice would be a nissan . you dont see those around that often atleast not here and they do have part makers for them everywhere. im the proud owner of a 97 dodge avenger and i love my car with all my heart even though it needs some work .. ive seen what it can but ... but i know with time money and effort it will look nice and its different. i plan to do an engine swap for a 3.0 liter v6 . im tired of the weak 2.5 liter v6 it came with .... the point im making is be different not the same other wise youll just be a copy cat
all this from lacis boyfriend D
 

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Sorry about that mis-understanding.. sounded like you hit the wall, took a look and then drove home. Glad to hear you found the MDOT paperwork, hopefully they won't give you too much of a hassle since you have a police report :D

Find a GS-R. If you haven't driven one before, find one and drive it... the choice will be clear if you like sporting drives. The suspension is stiff, the engine is powerful and the controls all feel like buttah. I think if more people had driven one just once there would be a lot less Honda haters out there.

If you like modifying motors, ignore VWs. They make major changes to the engine management too often and you usually can't find reasonably priced parts that will work with your specific model year. A huge PITA, IMHO.

As for the Malibu, 'meh..' but that's just my anti-GM bias showing through.
 

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Well, first off let me begin by asking who is your insurance Co. again?
If you dont have USAA I would strongly recommend getting them, Here is a quick scenario of what happened to me about 4 years ago. My 395.00 mountain bike was stolen out of my back yard and my insurance Co. didn't want to reimburse me for it (State Farm). I had renters insurance and my items that got stolen or damaged were to be replaced with new items at todays market value, not depreciated crap. Anyway, I had received a flyer in my mailbox the next morning after it happened and just out of curiousity decided to call them and see what they recommend I do they told me to join with them and I could fill out a claim report and they would reimburse me for it because I had gone like 3 1/2 years without an incident or accident. The whole jist of the story is, USAA, which is who we are with now, has been great, and I dont blame you for not telling your insurance company either. And as far as your car, keep the memories, keep the car, get a newer car with the money you are making now and thank GOD you didn't get injured. If It were me I would keep my car and payday by payday save up and make it something worth keeping to drive during the winter months or something or whenever you dont fill like filling up the tank every other day on your primary(Good) car.
Just my opinion, good luck, just be happy with your decision...
later
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