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Hide your guns and stock up on ammo guys......

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by DualXhst289, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. crazycarl88

    crazycarl88 New Member

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    oh. my. god. poeple were killing each other with sticks and rocks for tens of thousands of years before guns ever existed. anyone who thinks that eliminating guns is going to cut down on violent crimes is just clinging to some romantic ideal that people are intrinsically good.

    they aren't.

    if guns are gone people will just go back to killing each other the good ol' fashion ways.
  2. EscorGo

    EscorGo FEOA Donator

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    That's the saddest comment I have ever read...anywhere.
  3. Cymmantix

    Cymmantix My old archenemy, RAKES!

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    Stop it. You're making far too much sense.
  4. Bear45-70

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    So you are like the Messiah in the Oval Office, the Constitution, which is the base law of this land, means nothing to you and you want to ignore it because of some misguided belief that guns are evil. Sorry to burst your fantasy, but guns are just a tools, like a hammer, saw, screwdriver or even a baseball bat. They are not good or bad, it is how they are used that matters and that is determined by the user. You know people. Why don't you outlaw evil, but then you would outlaw miopic views because it is evil to force your short sighted and ignorant views on others. Oh and besides that the 2nd Amendment of said Constitution pretty much says your view is Unconstitutional anyway. Why don't you move to some other country that supports your views with their draconian laws and reigns of terror ?
  5. 88scortgt

    88scortgt FEOA Member

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    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
    the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
    Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

    To me, that means I have the right to own guns if I want to. Being an American citizen, I choose to take advantage of that right and arm myself. However, with that right comes responsibility. Like Bear45-70 stated, guns are no more than a tool, with a specific purpose. It is the person using that tool that decides what to do with it. Those people who abuse the right deserve to be punished to the full extent of the law. Taking guns away from people who legally own them will only be doing a favor for the criminals.
  6. Treeps

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    all it takes is a normal person who owns a gun or has access to a gun to snap and decide they want to kill themselve but kill a bunch of other people first (columbine, etc) and were gonna let people have the tools to take a life in the blink of an eye? theres too many people dying, and too many people robbing others just cuz they have something that can kill you instantly. you ever had some punk ass kid point a gun in your face and say theyre gonna kill you unless you give them ur shit? i have... and id rather the country didnt allow these people to have access to stuff like that. ive had 8 years of hand-to-hand combat training in a karate studio and i was taught to fight off all kinds of weapons with my hands and the ONLY one we were taught to NEVER mess with was guns, cuz whoever holds the gun, holds your life in that clip, not just bullets.


    although i AM canadian and we dont believe too much in letting people own tools designed for killing. you want to shoot guns? rent one at the range...
  7. Bear45-70

    Bear45-70 New Member

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    Evidently you haven't noticed that the Messiah has put this country so far into debt by helping those criminals that screwed it up without helping not one person that is being screwed buy the economic situation. Hell, this country will be lucky if our great grand children will be lucky to see the national debt back to where it is now and this from a guy who was gonna "Balance the Budget". In all reality he is evil. He is a fast rising politician in the most politically corrupt state in the Union and you don't think he is a stinker? Everyone he has appointed into an office is either a crook of a liar.
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    ^You already quoted that same statement back in Dec and you obviously didn't notice the part where I said,
    Now, just for fun, lets look at an example of a country where citizens don't have the right to bear arms, Japan. You can own a hunting rifle but handguns are forbidden. Crimes are rarely committed using guns and Japan's crime rate is one of the lowest among 1st world countries. I'm not saying that Japan is perfect and I sure don't know everything that goes on over there but I am providing this information as food for thought.
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    First off, I am sorry to hear that you were held up at gunpoint. If that happened to me, I would give up my property as well, my stuff isn't worth dying for. However, do you think that punk went to the gun dealer and legally obtained that weapon? That is the point I am trying to make. If a criminal wants a handgun, he will find one no matter what laws are in place.
    People do stupid things everyday, whether they own a gun or not. You used Columbine as an example. What if somebody hauling a truckload of explosive chemicals snapped and drove into a school? Does that mean that hauling things like that should be banned as well?
    Maybe if violence wasn't glorified the way it is by Hollywood and the media, things wouldn't be as bad as they are. Look at the popular movies and tv shows. How many murders do you think kids see in one night watching all the cop shows that are on now? The crap music my kids listen to seem to promote violence as well. And you see/hear it all day long, no matter where you go.
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    I don't want to burst your bubble but I can kill you with my bare hands, gun and bullet not necessary. So with your thinking, we need to outlaw hands because a person could kill someone this their hands. The same applies for a baseball bat, a paring knife and on and one and on. Wake up and smell the real world, Cars kill and maim more people than guns do by a long shot. Hell so do doctors for that matter, so are you gonna outlaw cars and doctors? :roll: The world is not a safe place and you and all the idealist in the world will not make it so.
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    Japan is far from perfect, their suicide rate is 10x's what ours is. Because there is so much pressure to achieve over there, where there's an incentive to sit on your ass and live off the state over here.

    Want to compare a country where they have super strict gun laws, check out Mexico.
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    Didn't you know that all of Mexico's gun problems are caused by the gun laws here in the US? :roll:
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    Or they could build a pipe bomb with match heads, crazy people do crazy things.

    I'm sure they allow hunting rifles and shotguns up there, saw one off to fit it under your coat, where there's a will there's a way

    They aren't robbing other people because they have a gun.

    Good for you, I guess you think that gives you the moral authority to tell me how bad guns are, but was this punk kid in Canada, the land where death tools aren't permitted? :roll: ;)

    Really, you think that "kid" was allowed to have access to that?

    Well in the USMC the first thing they teach you in hand to hand is to look for a force multiplier, I want a gun because it's about staying alive. BTW, it's a magazine, I'm pretty sure you aren't talking about guns with clips


    Screw that, I make my own ammo and shoot it in my back yard, at least I did before the accident.
  14. Sapper

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    Or the "gun show loophole" according to our secretary of state Hillary Klinton who said some 90% of all confiscated guns from Mexican drug runners came from the states. Yeah, 90% of the guns that agents checked because they thought they came from the states, came from the states, how convenient of her to leave that out.
  15. Bear45-70

    Bear45-70 New Member

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    Wonderful responses, but he will never understand because he wants the "state" to protect him. He doesn't have the brains of the balls to stand up and defend himself or his loved ones.

    Last guy to pull a gun on me, got to look down the barrel of my 45. If hadn't turned and ran when he did he would have died. Even if he had gotten me, he totally missed my wife over to the right with her gun pointed at him.

    A few more little quote that is oh so true.

    "People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically 'right.' Guns ended that, and social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work."
    - L. Neil Smith

    "Gun-control has always been an elitist method of controlling the common folk....Nevertheless, if the urban insane wish to be prey for predators, that's their privilege, but no one has the right to tell someone else that he or she cannot possess the tools necessary to defend his or her life and the lives of loved ones." Charley Reese

    "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
    Theodore Roosevelt, Republican, 1918

    "If the sole purpose of handguns is to kill people, then mine are all defective." - Uncle Ted Nugent (Mine also fit in this category)

    "An armed society is a polite society." Robert Heinlein
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    I don't want to get too embroiled in a he said she said argument, but to summarize my stance: 1) If the government has guns, I want guns. 2) Gun control is a ridiculous notion, created by people who want to continue punishing the responsible ones. 3) Gang bangers and other criminals don't register their guns. Nuff said.

    No offense, but speak for yourself. I'm Canadian, and I know many a Canadian who is well armed. There's a lot more up there than tree-huggers.
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    i jus wish you could buy a pistol at 18 in nh :( i want an ivory handled colt like patton.


    gun control, never had a problem with it, why change it? i mean yeah people get mad and snap, but ususally those people have mental problems, or severly emotional problems, that are ignore. As example the columbine kids, that was able to happen because their parents ignore the sign, lets ban bad parenting.
  18. Treeps

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    yeah, you can kill people with pretty much anything, but having the mental capability to beat somebody to death with your hands, or drive a truck into a building and kill yourself and a bunch of people is completely different then being able to squeeze a little trigger and kill somebody. somebody whos mentally ill or whatever can pull together the mental strength to squeeze a trigger and kill somebody with much less effort than being able to kill somebody with your hands... most people couldnt just beat somebody to death, watching and feeling there flesh come apart with your fist and feeling the bones break. but anybody can pull a trigger...
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    It is obvious you have never even been a soldier, much less in combat. First off even for the best of us, a gun is not a sure thing. For you amateurs and wannabes it is so low a percentage thing that you just don't frighten me at all. Your kind always dies when you face a real shooter and looter. On top of that your theory just doesn't hold water. People kill people all the time with kitchen knives, baseball bats, screw drivers and just about anything else you can think of. Guns are used in a very small portion of killings. But you "Know Nothing Experts" just can not deal with the actual facts, You would rather make up some "facts" rather than use the truth.

    "Gun Control" is the only policy that uses it's total lack of achieving any of it's stated goals, as the reason for needing more of it.
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    You need to relax friend. Trying to verbally beat somebody up is exactly what causes the actual issue to become so easy for the extremists to push. They can just point at folks and say 'Look, these are the people who are for guns! They're lunatics, so guns must be bad!'.

    No matter what the point is, it loses weight when it's not stated tactfully.

    He's right though, Treeps. The cliche is "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" and despite being corny it's true. Murderers, rapists, sociopaths, the deranged and estranged will all be that way given a gun or not. And gun control doesn't change that, period. They will find a gun. They will find a knife, or they will kill with their bare hands, whether it be on purpose or not.

    I should be allowed to defend myself against them, and my government if the need should arise. This is an extreme end of the stick example, but if everybody had guns, chances are good crime would go down, not up. How many thugs would rob a corner store, knowing that the 4 people inside were armed?

    Sure, we'd lose a few people. The gene pool needs to clean itself once in awhile.

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