Hey 95, you can find about three or four companies who do identical rims, I mentioned the Tenzo R versions, called Apex 5's, there are also identical rims by R1, Drag, and Volk. I know that neither you nor me can afford the Volks, but you can get a good deal on the R1 versions with tires online for just under $1K, I'm not too sure about the brand of tires, but I would imagine they would be decent for a while until you could save up for some really nice sticky rubber. :wink: Ask around at your local speed shop or wheel/tire places to see who can get you a good deal. I've been doing that and if you get to talk to the anager usually you can get a better price. I've been quoted 1200 bucks out the door on a set of badass 17's with Kumho Ecsta 712's. Albiet they are not those trims, I have yet to check the price on those. Try WheelsNext.com or pick up Sport Compact Car Magazine or even Import Tuner, they have tons of adds for those rims. But don't tell anyone you saw them in an import magazine. :lol: