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Discussion in '1st Gen 1981-1990 CVH' started by stangowner8687, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. stangowner8687

    stangowner8687 FEOA Member

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    Alright guys so I know I’ve got a lot of crap I’ve hoarded over the years in relation to the 1st gen escort I also know I’ve had a 87gt an 84expturbo and a 90lx now the problem I’m having is which is which. I know the pistons are a telltale so hopefully I can get some help being I want to send a cam to crane cams and the rest to a machine shop to prep for a turbo

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    I’m confident the loose cam came from this head

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    austin86 That nut who spends way to much on a escort.

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    Those positions are form an HO motor.
    Heads with a water/coolant passage between the 4 ports are for an HO too.
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    Alright so then the block and the empty head and loose camshaft most likely came from my 87GT. That means it’s not a roller? Also I tried runing the PCM and it keeps coming back as a 2.3 turbo ford but I’m sure this came from the exp turbo. I guess it’s possible in the big box of extra parts that came with the exp, the PO could have grabbed it from an SVO? Also I’ve gotten replies from crane cams about regrinding my factory cam. But which do I send them? The 87gt? The 84expturbo? The 89gt? Or the 90LX also they asked what all mods are being done? Besides the 8psi turbo and minor port work to the head and gasket matching around the TB/intake runners. What else is worth mentioning? I don’t even know if my block needs bored atm. And what pistons I’d run from that point to talk about CR change. Guys!? Am I doing this out of order?
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    austin86 That nut who spends way to much on a escort.

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    If the 89gt is in good shape Id send it as it should be a roller cam. Just make sure you can get springs for the roller grind you pick. If the 87gt cam is a flat lifter cam finding springs would be simpler.

    I wouldn’t send the lx cam as it would have far less meat on it.

    The turbo exp cam would be for a 1.6l so keep that in mind if you send that in. If you use the EXP cam importing springs from the UK would be an option. Saidly UK spribgs are not a drop in option for later 1.9l heads as they use a different size spring.


    Edit. I ran the PN on the block. It should be a late 1.9l
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    1982 EXPert FEOA Member

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    You showed (in order)
    1.6 Turbo ECU
    87+ 1.9 EFI HO block
    1.6 Turbo head
    88+ 1.9 EFI HO (roller) head
    Maybe a 1.9 roller cam (EFI HO or CFI), a better picture and measurements could help confirm.....

    Don't send in the 1.6 Turbo cam, new ones can be had for cheaper than a regrind - not too mention used 1.6 cams RARELY qualify for regrinding
    NOS 1.6 cams can be bought off eBay around $35, the Turbo cam is no different than the 1.6 HO cam
    Performance cams for the 1.6 can be bought from places like Burton Power in the UK around $200-$400.

    The EFI HO cam is the best candidate for regrinding, send in a roller cam if you have one

    Please remember the following:
    ONLY 1.6 cams can be used in 1.6 heads
    ONLY 1.9 & 2.0 cams can be used in 1.9/2.0 heads
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    austin86 That nut who spends way to much on a escort.

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    My cam grind from cran was only 150ish to grind, but I had a NOS cam.

    I second this.
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    Alright so the 88.5 engine/cam is the one I’m sending, but quick question, if I have the 87 block freshened up, to run in my gt while everything else is getting reworked, would there be any problems? Would be nice to have a whole Spare gt engine on the sidelines if this turbo blows up, but if the 87gt is problematic to my 88.5 then I’m not even gonna bother, I’ll just park the car for the next 4-6months as a shell, while everything is getting done.

    p.s. you guys are awesome
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    Only difference between the different years of EFI HO over the years (86-90) is the change from the flat-tappet cam to the roller-lifter cam - 86-88 is flat-tappet, 88.5-90 is roller-lifter.
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    Alright guys, So I’m planning this to be my last post on this particular thread, my next post will be “the build” as of right now I’ve already taken my head to the shop for port work and gasket matching, I’ve also taken my upper and lower in for gasket matching, ( btw there’s a lot of room for improvement judging by the gaskets.) I’ve already ordered new roller lifters for $40, I think I purchased the harland sharp roller rockers not sure because I got a weird message after confirming payment. I haven’t replied to crane cams yet bcuz I’m not sure exactly what to tell them besides 8psi boost. Ive already got a xr4ti vam and Ecu. I guess all I need really at this point is the intercooler & plumbing, injectors, pistons, and new custom exhaust. With all that said, I’m going to be working a lot of OT @ work while it’s available. I’ll try to catalog everything by way of photos. Any tips as I dive in would be appreciated. (I’ll also be noting receipts for other guys so they know what to expect)
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    1982 EXPert FEOA Member

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    Don't gasket match to the gasket, the gaskets are typically a whole lot bigger than they need to be, cut out a card-stock template to use as a guide for port-matching. You want the ports to match the intake, not both matching a gasket. Bigger is not better if the end result is a bunch of hour glass shapes in your ports and runners.
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