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Hi,

I am a new member, based in England GB. I have an Escort Van, with no central locking circuit, which I am currently locked out of.

The keys are sitting on the passengers seat in full view, just to spite me!!.

Anyway, I am hoping that someone knows a way of getting one of the doors open, or one of the rear's.

I am not fussy, as long as I do not have to break a window to open it.

Have already been through all the FORD keys in the family and the ones that are the correct shape do not fit, nor do any of my work mates.

I do not fancy calling one of the motoring organisations out to open it as 1) I am not a member and 2) they charge for it....

Please help.

Many Thanx
 

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Bluey said:
I am not fussy, as long as I do not have to break a window to open it.
well, there goes that idea.

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i know that wreckers sometimes will use an airpocket pouch. they'll wedge it between the window & the door, fill it with air and it will force the window down a few inches. that give them enough space to get a pole or rod into your car to flip the lock to unlock.

so, figure out a way to gently force the window down.

good luck man!
 

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The Van is based on the Escort car, sort of like a 2 door estate. Have no idea what the equivalent american model is sorry.

Have known that if you use half a tennis ball on the lock this can sometimes trick the central locking system into unlocking the car - bit of a pain as my van doesn't have the c/l circuit. Vans in this country are really basic - FORD didn't even do a power steering model until the late 90's.

Anyway, keep the ideas rolling....
 

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You need something called an air wedge. Or something that can do the same thing.

The door opens on two hinges (on the front quarter panel side) and latches on the B pillar near the bottom.

You can stick the air wedge on top top rear corner of the door and bend the door a little bit... enough to thread a coathanger in there and pick up the keys or lift up on the latch.

You can also use the arm brace for a blood pressure meter that doctors use, or you can just use a couple screw drivers (flat head) wrapped in duct tape to keep them from scratching paint. The last one is kinda barbaric, and you CAN bend your door permanently if you're not careful, but that's how the professional people do it. They use the air wedge and another little prying tool.
 

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I can give you a few pointers that may help you out. I just had to do this on my Escort about a week ago. First let me say that I agree you need a air wedge.

The locks on the US model seems to have two rows of tumblers (pins that are moved to a certain position and let the lock open). I assume your model has the same setup.

Lets do a quick lesson on mechanical locks. They are cylinders with pins in them. They are the easiest lock to pick. What needs to happen first is for the lock cylinder to be turned (the direction to unlock the lock). This will put all the tumblers on a slight bind. You then need to 'rake' the tumblers to get them pushed down beyond what is called the 'sheer line'. The sheer line is weak point of the lock since once the tumblers are on a bind they and are pushed beyond the sheer line and the cylinder turns a little binding another pin. Repeat the process untill all pins are beyond the sheer line, and the lock will turn and unlock.

I accomplished this with two thick paper clips, a Snap-On awl (I call it a straight pick, not to be confused with a lock pick) and a small flat blade screw driver.

Bend the paperclips untill you have a straight section as long as the key and looks like this =====. You need one for each tumbler row. Insert them all the way into the lock, use the awl the help force one up and one down into the pins. Then us the small flat blade screw driver and insert it all the way into the lock (about an inch) keepng the paperclips forced into the pins and apply a twisting force to the screwdriver. It is best to jiggle the whole contraption while twisting the lock.

Be warned however that this operation is provided for education and reference only. Its not my fault if you get in trouble.

Also its a real possibility to damage the locks and/or fail miserably. It took me 45 minutes before I get mine unlocked.

Good luck
 

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In reply to 96lxscort...

Sure, you can pick the lock, but just breaking in through the crack of the door is much eaiser than picking the lock will be.

That's just some practical advice for ya.
 

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I'm thinking that Siragan knows way too much about breaking into cars. If it were my car I'd break in one of the back side windows and grab the kets then head out the the junkyard to get another window. Those are easy to remove and replace on a regualr 2Dr HB Escort. I have no idea about your van though.
 

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If it were me? I'd walk over to my neighbors who's a lock-smith and have him unlock it for me. :roll: Failing that, I'd call one and pay him to do it, rather than damage my car and end up having to pay for new parts or to have it repaired. I would never break my window, because of the experience I've had with replacement window seals. Sometimes it leaks and you can just /never/ figure out exactly where the leak is coming from, the water runs all over the place so it's hard to tell. It happened when we replaced the windshield on my dad's truck - took us like 3 months to figure out exactly where it was leaking, even after repeatedly sealing it up all the way around.
 

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Well, if you can see the actual key in plain view sitting in your car, it might be possible to take a picture of it, scan it into the computer, undistort it in a graphics program like photoshop using the dimensions of a replacement uncut key you buy at the store as a frame of reference (scan the replacement in an match it). Print out a template and attempt to grind the replacement out to match. It is a stretch, an there are few people with the expertise to do it. I'm sure it is possible if not time consuming.

Yes I spend WAY too much time on computers. :D
 

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Sounds like someone's been watching too many 'secret agent' type movies. :wink: I'm sure you could pull it off if you had a high quality digicam and enough time on your hands.

BUT! What if it was one of those smart-keys like BMW's and Mercedes use?
 

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Sounds like someone's been watching too many 'secret agent' type movies. :wink: I'm sure you could pull it off if you had a high quality digicam and enough time on your hands.

BUT! What if it was one of those smart-keys like BMW's and Mercedes use?
dude. :?

it's an escort.

that should be somewhere along the lines of common sense there..

but about the picture of the key: wouldn't it have to be a straight-on shot of it?? if it were angled, you couldn't get the dimentions accurately.
 

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Yes, it was a joke :D. The fact that someone would got through that much trouble trying to dodge a call to the motor club is hysterical. Besides, I don't think you ever could undistort a key to create a usable model. And forget about creating a symetrical key grinding it down from scratch. :D
 

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... okay, first you find a squirrel who desperately needs a mission.. then you buy some peanut butter, an m80, one very small backpack and a bag of potato chips (crisps if you will).. are you following me?.. alright now here's what you do..

*gets dragged off by nice men in white suits*
 
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