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Ok.... so since i've had my car(95 LX 5spd), sometimes it has trouble gonig into reverse, and sometimes i just through it in 1st n rev it up alittle then it will go into reverse..(which i thought was somewhat normal) but tonight going in the 7 eleven parking lot it wouldnt budge into reverse til i turned the car off and went through a few gears... im sure it has somethin to do with the tranny or clutch(my car has bout 83K miles, and i learned to drive clutch on it) please help me out if i can figure out what it is b4 it does somethin serious thatd be nice... HELP!

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is it when you first start it up and go straight to reverse, or at any time?

my mom's '94 5speed does a similar thing when you first start the car up. all we would have to do is wait for the rpms to go down to idle or sometimes depress, let go, and depress the clutch again to make it work. but it hasn't got any worse over the years. its always been like that.
 

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well it usually does happen when i start it up, and it always goes in after i rev up in like 1st gear and then depress it then into reverse.... but this time at 7 eleven i drove inot the parking lot and went to go into reverse n it wouldnt budge even after going off and on the clutch and whatnot...

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Have you had your transmission fluid checked lately???

I'm not positive but I don't think that reverse uses synchronizers to push the helical gears into place, (someone correct me if i'm wrong) which is why even on new cars you can't get into gear without running the the rest or pushing in/out the clutch once or twice. The first step would be to have the transmission fluid checked, and if it's burnt/non-existant, replace it!!!

You could end up doing a lot more damage to your transmission by running it as is.
 

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Mine does that.. I just throw it towards reverse and let the clutch just barely catch.. it pops right in. Also, I can't get it out of 5th if I pull to a stop in said gear. I've replaced my shifter with a B&M, but this still might be an issue related to the worn connection between the linkage and the tranny on my car. The fact that it's 5th and Reverse (the two gears furthest from the middle/neutral position) on my car kinda indicates to me that it has something to do with the linkage. Otherwise, I just chalk it up to Ford Quality. :?
 

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my sister has a 95 escort lx with the 5 speed manual, she says she has a similar problem, but if you take it out of reverse and go back and forth in neutral and then put it back in it works.... it doesn't work for me alot though.... i normally have to put it into first, then put it into reverse, or move forward a bit, or even let the car roll backwards a bit, and THEN put it into reverse. apparently this is a more common problem then some people might think.
 

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that happens in my protege lx too .

James92scort mentioned what ive heard, that reverse uses synchronizers to push the helical gears into place. and it just doesnt line up sometimes. thats why when reverse goes out, it will just pop out of gear.

when that happens to me i just put in first, let it roll forward a little, then put it in reverse.
 

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ok so today going to work.. parking it.. it did it to me again.. wouldn't budge even going off and on the clutch and through all of the gears... i had to get to work.. so i just left it without tryin again.. when i went out there on my break, i tried again with the car off and it wouldn't, then turned the car back on and after fiddling for a min or so it went right in... everyone so far everyone has said it could be a bad syncro in the tranny(i don't have money for that) but other then this reverse problem it never does anything else bad.. so i dunno... ahem.. me and my cousin tried checking my transmission fluid yesterday(couldnt find it.... :oops: ) help me out.... LoL..im car illiterate, all i know how to do is change my oil n stuff..LoL... well thanx guyz...

Laci

PS yesterday spent $207 on 2 Falken tires for the front, alignment and oil change..... i had to borrow money from my boyfriend and mom.. and i realized with 83K i need to replace my timing belt, rear brakes and struts soon.. lovely lovely... my car is wearing out at the wrong time!..LoL... if this woulda been 5 months ago..... i woulda had the money but now on my own...... shit....LoL
 

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Syncros don't guide the teeth into the slots... they're like these springy fringy things that simply cause some contact between the locking collar on the shaft and the gear (which is always meshed). This contact allows the gear and the collar to match speeds (not line up).

Reverse does not need a synchro and does not have one since you should always be stopped when going into it. If you're stopped and the clutch disengaged (pedal to the floor).. the shafts, collars and gears are all stationary.. so synchros don't even matter... everything is already at the same speed.

I'm still convinced it's something to do with the linkage and the quality of the collars and gears (ie low). If the teeth on the collars don't have enough bevel and they aren't plentiful enough, they'll have a hard time finding their way into their slots.

Laci, have you tried letting the clutch out just enough to touch while pulling the lever back towards reverse? If you drop the clutch while doing this you could shear the teeth off the collar, so don't do that... just let the clutch out slowly until it just pops into gear.
 

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Believe me... I went very slowly on the clutch trying not to force it in... and sometimes it just doesn't go in now.... for the thrid time last night going to parrallel park.. i had to drive around the block before it would go right into reverse... (when it does go into reverse, it is very smooth and no noises... and i am completely stopped when i go into reverse)It used to be the normal just go into 1st or let the rpms drop or go up and it would go in.. now its not NORMAL anymore... well if it isn't the syncros(thank god) i hope its not that expensive of a fix.. i'll ask my friends step-dad.. he's a really good mechanic.... just lucky if he's ever home..(he works a lot)LoL... thanks guys... any other ideas PLEASE let me know..LoL

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Beaverboy's last post hit the nail on the head. It's got nothing to do with the syncros because reverse doesn't have any.

It has everything to do with the play in the shifter linkage. Get new shifter bushings and check the play along the line. The shifter linkages on escorts are absolutely primitive. Check out the shifting linkages on hondas sometime and you'll see what you're missing.
 

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actually, it happens to me all the time, and i have a 94 escort GT..... it seems to take farther to shift between gears than it does in my sister's lx.... it could be the shifter length, or the difference in transmission?????? who knows.... but it IS a problem, and it makes me mad sometimes..... but usually letting it roll forwards or backwards is an easy way to get it to go into reverse... i think i'm going to look into the shifter bushings and linkage...... thanks for the help guys... ANYTHING if it will save me a headache or two
 

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Yea.... its probably somethin to do with the linkage... the last day i had no problem with it(no more than the roll forward then put it in reverse ) which is everyday normal... but no its a problem cuz like tonight at work in the parknig lot.. if there wasnt a hill to roll back on and a car beside me..i woulda been stuck.. or having to push my car out of the spot.... tomororw im asking my friends dad to replace my timnig belt and brakes, and ill ask him about it... and see what he can do... thanks for your guys help.

Laci

PS if anyone thinks different, please tell..
 
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